Test Server Findings

**Virg** · 2012-01-25 12:57

19 relics in my crew, another 6 are like halfway done with stage 4. Fuck you SE. Also quoting SE´s last dev tracker bullshit on relics/emps/mythics here:

"The planned difficulty level for the corresponding Magian upgrade trials will be such that a majority of players with the appropriate level 95 equipment will likely be able to complete them."

Wat?

**Washburn** · 2012-01-25 12:59

Yeah, if it's 20 kills, fine, lets start farming pops and modding DATs, but if it's fkn items, ... my LS has 18 relics and a few folks have a good chunk of theirs done... my ass would rather go find a 2nd job that i get paid RL money for than do 360 fkn arch DL's. That or it's time to fire skyrim back up.

**Colenzo** · 2012-01-25 13:08

are there any actual screenshots confirming umbral merrow dropping from ADL?

**Darkmagi** · 2012-01-25 13:09

WHAT THE FUCK SE? Yeah ok 20 ADL drops is completable by an average player.

**ronin sparthos** · 2012-01-25 13:11

Originally Posted by Darkmagi

WHAT THE FUCK SE? Yeah ok 20 ADL drops is completable by an average player.

The Tanaka response: Average players don't have relic weapons. Balance.

I've never seen a screenshot of ADL dropping the marrow myself either and that rumor of Arch Diabolos' dropping it was bullshit I presume? I ask because I doubt many even kill Arch Diabolos' but they would be easier than ADL in terms of getting sets and doing.

**NynJa** · 2012-01-25 13:12

Originally Posted by Colenzo

are there any actual screenshots confirming umbral merrow dropping from ADL?

Yeah, it drops one...not sure if this can be enhanced via TH or whatever.

http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/100...al#post4980938

**Darkmagi** · 2012-01-25 13:12

It does drop it. An LS on my server has been selling them for 20mil.

**Colenzo** · 2012-01-25 13:13

lol... wow, that is fucking outrageous

**NynJa** · 2012-01-25 13:15

The price or what SE expects for the relic upgrade?

**Damane** · 2012-01-25 13:16

Originally Posted by NynJa

The price or what SE expects for the relic upgrade?

both

**Colenzo** · 2012-01-25 13:18

welp, guess my aegis is staying level 95

**Yathatguy** · 2012-01-25 13:21

Not that ridiculous. If you take a couple of COR's with you and get lucky you can get 2 per run. You only need 2 parties with PD, 1 BRD, and 1 SCH. I really hope this is for the HQ version and just ADL or DL kills for the NQ trial. There's just a lot of relics out there now...that's a lot of people spamming 1 instanced mob.

**NynJa** · 2012-01-25 13:23

The price is justified though: every body in dynamis should be accountable for ~100 currency (I dont care if a solo bst can pull in 150 because yuly can fight a second mob, a solo bst can also pull in 50 when all their yellow mobs get jacked). with 18 people, thats roughly 1800 currency that needs to be accounted for, at 8.5k each, is a bit over 15 mil. The drops from the NM's in xarc are meh to decent (200k/500k/1m/200k, 1 sells every 2 days on average). You're going to get SOME currency while farming the NM's / pop items, and maybe some goodies from DL/ADL...but you also have to consider that cause ADL is an entirely luck based fight, you're going to wipe sometimes.

**Taint** · 2012-01-25 13:29

At this point 99 Emps seem much more doable, now if only the JPs didn't buy up all the Dross/Cinder already. They must have found out last week, thats when all the shouts for Dross/Cinder started.

**Damane** · 2012-01-25 13:31

my mind is still drooling over the "Reasonable" shit sentence and this trial. It just doesnt concede together very well...

Reasonable for an "Average" player woudl have been 20 Dynamis Lord kills.

**Darkmagi** · 2012-01-25 13:34

I would rather have 100 ADL kills than 20 drops easily. Fucking dumb to make it such a bottleneck.

**Yathatguy** · 2012-01-25 13:35

The "Average" player doesn't have a relic so this would mean the "Average" relic holder who, minus the recent influx of the easy access relics, were mostly competent end game players. Note-I'm not dissing new relic holders just saying you can't gauge a player based off having a relic anymore. So yes, I think the "average" relic holder should be able to do this trial especially if they build a relic old school and did those shitty 2k ws kill trials. It is a lot but hey...it's that much more satisfying when you finish it.

**Damane** · 2012-01-25 13:39

Originally Posted by Rathan

The "Average" player doesn't have a relic so this would mean the "Average" relic holder who, minus the recent influx of the easy access relics, were mostly competent end game players. Note-I'm not dissing new relic holders just saying you can't gauge a player based off having a relic anymore. So yes, I think the "average" relic holder should be able to do this trial especially if they build a relic old school and did those shitty 2k ws kill trials. It is a lot but hey...it's that much more satisfying when you finish it.

my relic is 4 years + old, times have changed, doing 100+ ADL kills with the LS to upgrade all relics to 99 is NOT somethign I am looking forward to... Besides I want to enjoy the game and not be stuck in the same event over and over and over again

**NynJa** · 2012-01-25 13:40

FF is rapidly going away from fun and feeling like an unpaid chore...

**Yathatguy** · 2012-01-25 13:40

Originally Posted by Damane

my relic is 4 years + old, times have changed, doing 100+ ADL kills with the LS to upgrade all relics to 99 is NOT somethign I am looking forward to... Besides I want to enjoy the game and not be stuck in the same event over and over and over again

Ya it sucks and is a major challenging for sure. I'm really hoping this is for the HQ version...

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