Test Server Findings

**Churchill** · 2012-01-25 18:33

Now I am a man with a particular set of skills and no purpose.

**Lyramion** · 2012-01-25 19:24

Time to merc ADLs and PWs for rich ppl? The numbers arent so bad, I mean NOW ppl see a huge stonewall but give it a bit... and ppl with 25% will pop up, then half done, then finished. Always been that way.

**Churchill** · 2012-01-25 19:27

People that are buying them for 20M+ or wasting 17 other peoples time, sure. That's entirely the point though.

**NynJa** · 2012-01-25 19:30

After all you've put into your relic/mythic, theres obviously nothing wrong with spending an additional 400 mil to push it to lv99

**ronin sparthos** · 2012-01-25 19:44

Originally Posted by SE

The planned difficulty level for the corresponding Magian upgrade trials will be such that a majority of players with the appropriate level 95 equipment will likely be able to complete them.

Just keep reading this and try to keep the laughter at bay.

Just when you think SE can't fuck up any greater, they find a way to go above and beyond the call of duty.

**Churchill** · 2012-01-25 19:44

SE already deleting posts that call the devs incompetent/this trial bullshit.

**Churchill** · 2012-01-25 19:46

Originally Posted by ronin sparthos

Just keep reading this and try to keep the laughter at bay.

Just when you think SE can't fuck up any greater, they find a way to go above and beyond the call of duty.

It's not even about that though. It's about how extremely selfish it is to even attempt to complete this trial. If you're buying, fine. You have 400m, great. If you're using a linkshell, fuck you; you're a fucking cunt.

**Septimus** · 2012-01-25 19:59

Originally Posted by Churchill

It's not even about that though. It's about how extremely selfish it is to even attempt to complete this trial. If you're buying, fine. You have 400m, great. If you're using a linkshell, fuck you; you're a fucking cunt.

It's like the "good old days" all over again where you would have an entire linkshell farming relics for the leader and his friends, LS bank stealing, and quitting as soon as you finish your relic. The Dramabase was feeling very unloved, this should spice things up.

**ronin sparthos** · 2012-01-25 20:06

Originally Posted by Churchill

It's not even about that though. It's about how extremely selfish it is to even attempt to complete this trial. If you're buying, fine. You have 400m, great. If you're using a linkshell, fuck you; you're a fucking cunt.

The whole thing makes no fucking sense.

Even if you command 400M to buy out this trial, you're going to have a supply problem regarding shells willing and able to run ADLs for you. In '12s XI, how many shells can really rally the troops for a chance to get paid by a buyer? You can do everything right @ADL and still lose. Doesn't sound very ideal to me, especially when you're wasting time that could otherwise be put into lowmanning currency, forgotten items or trying to get EXP for augmented +2s.

This whole ADL thing is WoE-1s all over again. SE has a vision but the vision doesn't match reality and we're all stuck scratching our heads wondering what the fuck were they thinking.

**Spira** · 2012-01-25 20:09

The Empy basic trials are fine. There'll be sufficient supply of the stuff because people already spam it for other reasons.
For afterglow, 3000 is a bit steep but not impossible given that people will continue to spam it for gear and such. There's also a possibility that VW4 will drop riftdross/cinder

However, PW and ADL are a little unreasonable.
10 mulcibar scoria isn't that bad considering you can buy them, but no one really kills PW in the first place. There is no natural supply, so to speak. There may be some people doing up to t4 for the mythic kills trials now, but even then they might be riding on others aiming for the trophys.

If PW dropped more than one scoria, and also dropped like t4 trophies occasionally, it might create a demand for killing it. It really isn't even difficult anymore, so you don't need many people to do it, but it's just hard to get to.
Hopefully the zeni per plate is a lot higher so that you can at least remove the plate farming time sink from it.

ADL... I dunno. Sounds lame.

No one is gonna do afterglow trials. SE will realize that no one cares enough and hopefully will scale it down to just like twice the NQ trials. I dont think theyre blind enough to not realize that the novelty isn't worth the effort. Just stubborn

**Cratylus** · 2012-01-25 21:17

Originally Posted by Churchill

People that are buying them for 20M+ or wasting 17 other peoples time, sure. That's entirely the point though.

To go from 95 to 99 S1 to 99 S2 buying the items and you buy the gil for it... it would cost you roughly $109,230.00
1 mil for 10 relics lol

**Xilk** · 2012-01-25 23:24

Forgive me if its been tried, I've not fought ADL, but... Can you put the main one on widescan before he splits and still be able to tell which is the right one?

**Spira** · 2012-01-26 00:52

Doubt so. If its like old DL, where pets will return to the player when he splits, it means the target is gone, and hence unable to track.

Edit: my memory might be wrong and adl be different from DL as well. Been a while

Edit2: xilk! U were there for our MI DL attempts right?

**Prothescar** · 2012-01-26 00:58

Shame it doesnt work quite like the Campaign SL. BRD sacs go!

**Strawhat** · 2012-01-26 01:38

Guess SE wants us to join Dynamis LS again, 36+ people and kill stuff in Dynamis, might work... thou my last Dynamis shell couldn't kill Dynamis lord till like lvl 85~ or even 90

anyway, for empy, you need dross or cinder?

**Spira** · 2012-01-26 01:43

I think new dynamis nm confrontations are still capped at 18.

DL is no joke simply because of how much damage he can dish out. He's comparatively much easier to kill tho.
If you've done him with pet jobs and at a distance you get to see the damage he can dish out over time.
Even then it gets messy when his clones pop and suddenly they all hit you with Tera Slash.
Honestly i think only dynamis lords fight does justice to the Shadow Lord being the original Final Boss of FfxI

**Mahoro** · 2012-01-26 02:06

If ADL weren't such a crapshoot, and if a LS could do 3-4 pops per Dynamis session, this trial would be a bit better (although still a needless grind). People in my shell still want Shadow Gear/Archon Gear/Sagasingers, but ADL is so unforgiving that you aren't even guaranteed a kill if you keep picking the damn clones...I hate that fight so much because of how arbitrary it can be.

**Churchill** · 2012-01-26 02:12

I think what you mean is easily obtainable by the majority of the playerbase

**Byrthnoth** · 2012-01-26 02:21

This is kind of a dead-end for SE. Look at the cycle:
* Group A mercs DL and PW so that you can buy items to fund your level 99 Mythic/Relic?
* Group A now has gil (yay!) but what do they do with it?
* Group A buys Relics/Mythics with the gil, because RCBs are only so expensive.
* Now Group A wants to upgrade to 99.

Demand begets more demand. There is no end. You just create rivals for yourself when you buy the merced drops.

**Yugl** · 2012-01-26 02:28

Originally Posted by Byrthnoth

This is kind of a dead-end for SE. Look at the cycle:
* Group A mercs DL and PW so that you can buy items to fund your level 99 Mythic/Relic?
* Group A now has gil (yay!) but what do they do with it?
* Group A buys Relics/Mythics with the gil, because RCBs are only so expensive.
* Now Group A wants to upgrade to 99.

Demand begets more demand. There is no end. You just create rivals for yourself when you buy the merced drops.

Or you RMT it so Relic/Mythic people can buy gil from the RMT company. The gil they buy then goes back to you. Finally, (And here's the shocker) the gil goes back to the RMT company. Hurray for cycles!

Probably doesn't play out like that, but that would be a funny (potential) scenario.

Thread: Test Server Findings

Thread Tools

Similar Threads

Voidwatch Test Server Findings

Test server + windower + memloc

Latest Threads

Up & Coming Threads

Hottest Threads