Test Server Findings

**Shenrien** · 2012-03-07 04:37

Inb4 3 rifts, with a chance of fighting rook/pawn/knight/bishop/queen/king or crystal dragon, depending on if the moon aligns with the sun, Venus and Mercury while Jupiter and Saturn go fuck themselves., and you hit enter at the right time and get warped into kirins room.

**jimbobsonofgod** · 2012-03-07 15:03

Are slots reserved for people under the effects of charm ?

**pancakesandsex** · 2012-03-07 15:55

Originally Posted by jimbobsonofgod

Are slots reserved for people under the effects of charm ?

That would imply a hard cap per zone on the number of players charmable wouldn't it?
Test in undead besieged?

**Aleste** · 2012-03-07 17:03

Originally Posted by Taim Meich

Has anyone checked the influence of healing skill in cures, and what can be expected from SCH and RDM cures now with the changes?

Been doing the testing on the official forum. We've got a formula down and have been working on soft caps for cure1-4.

Power=skill+MND/2 + VIT/4

All values truncated.

On a side note, our napkin math says that in terms of HP/MP efficiency the order is now : 3 > 1 > 4 > 2 > 5 > 6

**Taim Meich** · 2012-03-07 17:11

Originally Posted by Aleste

On a side note, our napkin math says that in terms of HP/MP efficiency the order is now : 3 > 1 > 4 > 2 > 5 > 6

That's pretty messed up, haha. On the other hand, maybe it will compensate for Cure V's small enmity generation.

**Khamsin** · 2012-03-07 21:39

Originally Posted by pancakesandsex

That would imply a hard cap per zone on the number of players charmable wouldn't it?
Test in undead besieged?

Are there slots reserved for pets, fellows, portafurnaces, magian logs, etc.?

Or does the game dynamically create new mob IDs for all these? And if you dismiss a pet and summon a new one, does it take an old slot or does the game create yet a new ID for it?

**Julian** · 2012-03-08 10:28

Originally Posted by Kaisha

I'm just curious why the knight and rooks do not follow the 3-groups setup (other than the 6 sets of chess pieces, 2 for each dragon spawn?) that the rest of the mob list has for the 3-rifts-per-zone thing they have going.

Makes me wonder if they're just normal wandering mobs in the zone.

My dat mines might look awkward because they're designed to be grabbing new mobs in an update, not an entire zone. This is the current setup of the zone

Spoiler: show

**Kaisha** · 2012-03-08 11:59

Originally Posted by pancakesandsex

That would imply a hard cap per zone on the number of players charmable wouldn't it?
Test in undead besieged?

Have a bunch of BRDs at Colibri camp sing Virelai.

**Neptuna** · 2012-03-08 14:15

Originally Posted by Septimus

There are 16 Guild Ranks in the game. Amateur, Recruit, Initiate, Novice, Apprentice, Journeyman, Craftsman, Artisan, Adept, Veteran, Expert, Authority, Luminary, Master, Grandmaster, and Legend. If it stays true to the current pattern, crafts would go up 160. It does seem odd that it would go to 160 instead of 150. Maybe Legend would be at 150 and you have to do something special for it it, like get all GP items/key items/other stuff or something along those lines.

Unfortunately I don't have 100k GP on the test server for Smithing, but after I checked on the KI to break the level cap, I spoke to Beaudrinc to see if I could get any recipes. Interestingly, he listed the ranks as: Artisan > Adept > Veteran > Legend. Not sure if "110" will permanently be considered Legend when this goes live, but that's how it's currently set up. If so, that may be insight that they plan to keep the base skill cap @ 110.

And the prick didn't give me any recipes since I hadn't received the KI yet :/

**Aleste** · 2012-03-08 14:25

Through collaboration, we've pretty much nailed the test servers cure formula.

page breaking graph

Spoiler: show

Multiple internet cookies for motenten math skills.

**Byrthnoth** · 2012-03-08 14:35

Really? Something seems a little off there. Did they change the caps and constants too?

Before: 3*MND + VIT + 3*Skill/5
Now: MND/2 + VIT/4 + Skill
Difference: 2.5*MND + 3/4*VIT - 2/5*Skill

2.5*100 + .75*80 - .4*500 = 110, indicating that the power was higher before than it is now for a pretty realistic WHM99 setup. I know that HP healed went up, so what else changed?

**Aleste** · 2012-03-08 14:59

Quite alot, me and mot are just confirming the lower bounds atm on all spells, then that'll be finalised. We've a google doc running with test values and whatnot if you'd like to examine in detail.

Viewers can edit for the meantime (because mot and eco don't want to sign into google docs, but still wish to continue editing)... but if it starts getting vandalized by anons I'll change that.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...3ctMWEzemcxeWc

**Koyangi** · 2012-03-08 17:46

I never knew VIT was in the formula for cure's, is this new or am I missing something?

**Aleste** · 2012-03-08 17:47

Seems our predicted softcaps (at the extreme lower bounds) is off a little, working on correcting it. We're pretty content with the cure1-4 rates/caps, cure5/6 are being a little difficult at the lower bounds to test adequately.

EDIT:// @above the old formula used to be:

http://members.shaw.ca/pizza_steve/cure/Cure_Final.png

**Slycer** · 2012-03-08 17:56

Originally Posted by Koyangi

I never knew VIT was in the formula for cure's, is this new or am I missing something?

Not new, just relatively unimportant since it's much more beneficial to stack cure potency to cap, then MND (and I'm pretty sure you can get more MND than VIT in all slots where you aren't equipping cure potency to hit the cap).

**Ophannus** · 2012-03-08 18:07

Yeah I think under the previous paradigm it was something like: 1 MND is the equivalent of 5 VIT or 10 Healing skill or something.

**Byrthnoth** · 2012-03-08 18:34

Look at the above equation and it would tell you, 1 MND is as good as 3 VIT in the old equation, and healing power is nigh-irrelevant for C1-4 because almost any job with access hits the second cap on Power at the moment (iirc).

Thanks for the update, Aleste.

**Zirael** · 2012-03-08 20:38

Okies, took me a bit to copy myself to Test Server with a 100k GP character, but here goes:
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tl;dr
Buy KI for 100k and guildmaster asks you for a signed guild test item. Getting KI alone doesn't unlock 110 cap. I'm going to sleep now, but I'll get ingredients on real server tomorrow and copy myself over to trade that GP item and will report back.

**Aleste** · 2012-03-08 20:56

Finalized all cure caps/ratios and formula. Assuming SE don't up and ninja change it, it's good to go.

Spoiler: show

It's late and I'm tired, so I'll leave plotting hp/mp efficiency till tomorrow.

**Fwahm** · 2012-03-08 21:34

I've been wondering, but with the new emphasis on healing skill, will jobs with only subbed healing skill (/whm, or especially /sch without light arts) actually have their Cures weakened?

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