Test Server Findings

[Spira]

just got down to patching..

the aftercircle thing looks pretty interesting. it definitely seems to be some additional effect from the aftermath. AoE aftermaths would be pretty game changing for a lot of the weapons and would make multiple legendary weapon holders in the same pt pretty hax, even if they use their ws/effects one at a time..

most of the relic stuff seem to be sidegrades compared to empyrean +2s.. alternative options i guess but nothing spectacular, sadly..
i guess we can still hope for Artifact+2 to be good lol.. if such a thing comes

[akron666]

most of the relic stuff seem to be sidegrades compared to empyrean +2s.. alternative options i guess but nothing spectacular, sadly..
i guess we can still hope for Artifact+2 to be good lol.. if such a thing comes

Plus u must remember that relic stuff will need alot of money so dont think will be worth enought to spend something like 25-50m for them.

[Sekundes]

It ends up working because mobs have different magic evasion values to different spells. Notice how much easier it is for a nin in tp gear (ie relatively low macc) to land debuffs vs a rdm landing the same type/element bebuff in full enfeeble/macc set +staff. That being said I thought I once read somewhere that at higher lvls of skill the skill to macc ratio went down kinda like melee skill to acc

Hmm, I'd really like a better picture of how this works but I won't derail the thread further.

[Prothescar]

Plus u must remember that relic stuff will need alot of money so dont think will be worth enought to spend something like 25-50m for them.

what planet do you live on sir

[akron666]

Lol my bad XD i wrote 25-50m. NVM Forgive me

[Spira]

lol someone somewhere will have do.. regardless of the cost or difficulty..

btw, not a single new graphical asset.

[shen]

That being said I thought I once read somewhere that at higher lvls of skill the skill to macc ratio went down kinda like melee skill to acc

Well there's this.

tl:dr version:

Conclusion: There is scant reason to believe that 1 point of elemental magic skill above the 200 level yields only a 0.9% increase in effective magic accuracy (unless lodeguy and I were extremely unlucky). You might as well treat it as a 1% increase! Perhaps this is not the case for other types of magic skill, and perhaps there is some funny business above the 300 level, but at least here is some conclusive evidence for the range of elemental magic skill considered.

But it's just elemental accuracy.

edit: if that was what you were thinking off, the whole M.Acc changing over 200 thing, wasn't sure >.>

[dasva]

Hmm, I'd really like a better picture of how this works but I won't derail the thread further.

Hard finding much info on it that isn't super technical and really really in depth. Trying to skim thru Robonosto's notes but it's somewhat tedious going thru it. But basically the concept is different mobs have different inherent resistance to different spells as well as specific elements and status effects like normal PCs can have.

[SargentRemora]

Regarding Merits:
HP/MP Increases from Lv.12 onwards are all 9 merits each
Attribute merit increases (starting from Lv.8): 12>15>15>15
Cap for Skills at A- at 99 is 412.

Heavenward Howl costs 96 MP
Pavor Nocturnus costs 197 MP
Neither of these are implimented on the test server yet, they just appear as "." and give a command error when trying to use them.

[dasva]

Well there's this.

tl:dr version:



But it's just elemental accuracy.

edit: if that was what you were thinking off, the whole M.Acc changing over 200 thing, wasn't sure >.>

Naw I remember the over 200 part was debunked I just thought I remember something about really high values like stuff only brd can do lol. Well could idk anymore since all the updates alot of of magics can get 400 skill. Might be worth retesting... except it is soooo tedious

[S N K]

Would someone please translate BST as well? I know it's lol but I'm curious all the same.

Edit: Nevermind someone beat me to it a couple of pages back.

[Atomic Skull]

I hope it's just 1k currency.

You can't seriously believe that.

[Motenten]

Cap for Skills at A- at 99 is 412.

That's.. odd. A- skill caps at 389 at 95, so that means a gain of 23 skill over 4 levels (6/6/6/5?). Even if it was 24 skill (6 per level), that's still a reduction from the gain rate over 90-95.

Possibly a misreading? Expected skill cap if skills continue at 7 per level would be 417, which might look similar to 412.

[Foldypaws]

That's.. odd. A- skill caps at 389 at 95, so that means a gain of 23 skill over 4 levels (6/6/6/5?). Even if it was 24 skill (6 per level), that's still a reduction from the gain rate over 90-95.

Possibly a misreading? Expected skill cap if skills continue at 7 per level would be 417, which might look similar to 412.

I know A+ skills gained 28 points, I don't see any reason A- would have been different.

[Atomic Skull]

Google translate:

Mandau Dagger All species Gin ---------- --- ---- Red system Lv99 Ex Rare 176 Attack +40 Additional effect: DMG Mercy Stroke D55: Circle after toxin

Touwashutora Dagger All species Gin --- -------- ----- dance system - Lv99 Ex Rare Rudra 176 DEX +20 DMG Storm Aftermath D55: Circle after attack twice occasionally

[Julian]

Regarding Merits:
HP/MP Increases from Lv.12 onwards are all 9 merits each
Attribute merit increases (starting from Lv.8): 12>15>15>15
Cap for Skills at A- at 99 is 412.

Heavenward Howl costs 96 MP
Pavor Nocturnus costs 197 MP
Neither of these are implimented on the test server yet, they just appear as "." and give a command error when trying to use them.

So it seems that the issue with the new bst/smn abilities not being usable is because they don't have a valid name.

Haha, so those abilities are JP ONRY. gg SE

[nikia]

I really hope the Dmg ratting for Relics and Empy is not the same. From what I saw seems they are but Mythics have a lower ratting?

[Foxer]

Looks like 1-handed Empyreans and Relics share the same base damage now, while the 2-handed Empyreans are about the same amount below Relics due to their delay, like it's always been. Relic H2H actually pulled ahead by 1 more over Empyrean H2H, as opposed to every 1-handed Relic, who actually gained 1 less damage VS. Empyreans.

[nikia]

Seems kinda crappy that base damage is equal now, I will say i am a relic fanboy but even if I wasnt relics should have more damage than empy. Also mythics having lower dmg ratting than empy is a slap in the face of mythic owners especially since mythic still takes the most effort to obtain. Hope there will be some trial to see relics and mythics pull ahead. sorry also if seems like complaining just kinda concerned. thanks for the info tho.

[Foxer]

If the Relic and Mythic upgrade to 99 is as easy as it was to 95, I wouldn't really mind, as long as the 99 Empyreans are actually hard(not just expensive) to get.