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    And there is a SS of proof. Thank you.

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    That's awesome. I assume the stuff in this post were the +1s? Looks like I'm going to have to upgrade pretty much all of the Dancer stuff eventually.

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    I tested the Mandau thing earlier today and will back up the confirmation. I also messed around a bit to see if anything else got tweaked but found nothing. No trip damage in the off hand and no WS as one would expect. Nothing new when main handing it either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byrthnoth View Post
    That's awesome. I assume the stuff in this post were the +1s? Looks like I'm going to have to upgrade pretty much all of the Dancer stuff eventually.
    Thought those were the AF2+2s.

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    Yeah, those should be the +2s. The +3s will have merit-oriented augments on them, if I recall.

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    I thought the +2s were going to be the merited ones. I'm lost as to what's going on now. I don't see gold border relics happening so fast, considering they're all LV. 99 pieces, but who knows. I can't wait to get an official, or at the very least, proper translation/data chart of what's in store. If there even is a real +3, I can't even imagine the stats!

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    *Relic and Relic +1 Armor will result in the same items after upgrading. Owners of Relic +1 Armor will be rewarded with less demanding conditions for the first upgrade stage.
    That confuses me. I think that hints to the new +1s just being LV. 99 and the previous +1 owners will have an easy time getting there, while whoever doesn't already own a +1, will be required to do the entire quest for it, as opposed to farm Dynamis, like how +1s were previously attained.

    *Certain elements of the 11/18 (Fri.) test server update related to the new upgradable relic armor pieces and corresponding Magian trials are still in development and not yet ready for testing. Item graphics and attributes may include temporary placeholders, and trial progressions and completion rewards may not yet function properly.
    These details are scheduled to be finalized and the content made ready for full testing in the next test server update.

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    I don't know if this was posted but... I'm sure this will make some people rage.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Foxer View Post
    That confuses me. I think that hints to the new +1s just being LV. 99 and the previous +1 owners will have an easy time getting there, while whoever doesn't already own a +1, will be required to do the entire quest for it, as opposed to farm Dynamis, like how +1s were previously attained.
    The placeholders on the test server say that the upgrade from NQ to +2 will cost 50 of some item (just comes up as "..") and the upgrade from +1 to +2 will cost 20 of some item (also comes up as ".."). I'm assuming it's the same item in both cases, so it's a pretty significant decrease in the difficulty of the trial, assuming they hold those numbers. There are no "new +1s" -- it's the old NQ, the old +1, and the new +2. As others have said above, the second stage of (merit-related) augments will probably yield a +3. I don't really know where people got the idea that the augments would cost merit points. The post from SE pretty clearly says that the attributes on the gear will be related to merits, not that the cost will be merits. Not that it can't happen, but it wasn't indicated or hinted at by SE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shenrien View Post
    I don't know if this was posted but... I'm sure this will make some people rage.

    Ugh, so this means I'll start seeing BSTs out there camping it? The Hippo must be Fire based then I'm assuming? I know when Tiamat's on the ground it has piss poor accuracy but in the air it just punished Yuly before.

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    Yeah the way it's phrased it almost sounds like it is augmenting merit points.... or I'd guess merit point abilities/traits (maybe those new merit point 2hrs?) But if you weren't paying attention it could sound like the requirement for upgrading

    "•Two upgrade stages will be available, each offering the following augmented attributes:
    •Stage 1: Item-related augments
    •Stage 2: Merit point-related augments"

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    Not sure, but I wouldn't go past it that it has higher evasion the Yuly, and higher TH, I believe it was said it was a THF type mob.

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    The game is Dead! -.- Also Tiamat solable now wtf ... that video rly pissed me off, anyway its pretty nice now gaiters's price will decrease alot lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by akron666 View Post
    The game is Dead! -.- Also Tiamat solable now wtf ... that video rly pissed me off, anyway its pretty nice now gaiters's price will decrease alot lol
    Why would it? Tiamat is being camped by at least one group on almost every server, and unless BSTs suddenly start solo camping 24/7 I don't see much happening to the price, what we know for sure Tiamat doesn't wander around for long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by akron666 View Post
    The game is Dead! -.- Also Tiamat solable now wtf ... that video rly pissed me off, anyway its pretty nice now gaiters's price will decrease alot lol
    It'll go up, BST solos with no TH for a fire crystal and wyrm horn > less gaiters around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alkimi View Post
    It'll go up, BST solos with no TH for a fire crystal and wyrm horn > less gaiters around.
    you haven't been paying attention have you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alkimi View Post
    It'll go up, BST solos with no TH for a fire crystal and wyrm horn > less gaiters around.
    Dont think so:
    Quote Originally Posted by Shenrien View Post
    Not sure, but I wouldn't go past it that it has higher evasion the Yuly, and higher TH, I believe it was said it was a THF type mob.
    TH from Hippo! and anyway they just need a lolmule thf 75 naked with th3-4 for gaiters or just switch to Yuly at the very end of the fight if hippo isnt a thf mob. I'm not sure since im not bst.
    And u can be 100% sure that tiamat will be camped from bsts since gaiters are a good money maker item.

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    Hippos have always been either THF or BRD, so I'm not really surprised. I was pretty thankful Scorpion or whatever the NAs voted for got kicked out. The lame frogs that don't have TP moves are also (generally) really resistant to magic.

    Also yeah, I meant +2s before. I have been asking whether SE actually meant they'll enhance merit points, but I'm assuming it's just Japlish that didn't get caught before the NA team copy-pasta'd it onto the forums. If they actually meant it'll be "enhanced BY merit points," then we're going to see further stat improvement on those pieces and I'll need pretty much all of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by akron666 View Post
    since gaiters are a good money maker item.
    Since when?

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    herald's are like 10-15mil, at least here on Ragnarok.

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