Test Server Findings

[InsaniacTHF]

Someone asked about scythe I think. Consistent 2ks with +82 str and the +2 WoE scythe. I'll see how many HtH WSs I can get off on qilin before he kills me now.

Edit: Nevermind. I copied to the test server before I had T3 ashen. Anything else you would want it tested on?

[coder]

Edit: Nevermind. I copied to the test server before I had T3 ashen.

You can talk to the Voidwatch GM NPC and it'll upgrade all of your KIs for you.

[InsaniacTHF]

Oh snap. That's right.

[Sechs]

If you use Fanatic's Drink at start and make good use of Monarc's Drink and Dusty Wing (and start with 300 TP) you should be able to shoot quite a few of WSs.
I don't know if others can confirm my experience, but while I've been able to shoot as high as 3,5k Vsmite (with my lol85 Vere), its numbers are usually very very low when impetus is down.
It used to be the same on Hahava when I was level 90, dunno if 95 makes some difference, haven't fought him ever since.

Qilin also has nasty Eva at 95 for me, aggressor/focus usually aren't enough for me to grant me a satisfying accuracy in my standard TPset (had to swap a few pieces or use sushi/marinara), altough I guess levelcorrection at level 99 will probably make one of those two more than enough.


Edit:
Where's the voidwatch GM npc? Only GM npcs I've seen are the two moogle inside MH.

[pnavaja]

Someone asked about scythe I think. Consistent 2ks with +82 str and the +2 WoE scythe.

was this whit 5/5 upgrades or just 1?

[Byrthnoth]

Accuracy Down effect is -20 Acc and lasts 1.5 minutes at both 100 and 300 TP. I've done 300 TP three times now.

[Toth]

I'll test out PUP and the new WS on Kaggan some time later.

[Nightfyre]

Forgive my ignorance as I'm just catching up on this thread, but even if the WS was comparable to Hi's damage, how are we balancing the Kannagi Aftermath? Has the hidden x3 on Kikoku been scaled up enough to match that?

Kikoku 3x damage has been scaled such that it's now equivalent to about 20% ODD. 40 attack will carry the rest and then some when you consider it's 1) active on WS and 2) Kannagi AM won't be up 100% of the time. Given the attack bonus it gets I'm actually thinking it may beat Hi on harder content given the posted numbers vs Terrigan mobs, which are fairly consistent with average Hi output. I'll wait for actual fTP/WSC information to pass judgement on that though. It's possible Kannagi may win on fodder, I don't know yet.

It seems even worse for Great Axe, even assuming something matches Ukko's Broken, the fact that Bravura only gets x2 seems to mean we at least need the hidden to be brought up equal to the Ukonvasara's Aftermath rate to make them equal DPS-wise (ignoring the benefits of Bravura's -DT and possibly AOE -DT)

I'm not looking for it to beat Ukko's, but a superior option to RR when you can go without MT's aftermath seems likely. 2x damage procs were also scaled upwards; they're exactly 20%. All the relic damage procs can essentially be considered equivalent to 20% ODD now.

[hexagram23]

Someone asked about scythe I think. Consistent 2ks with +82 str and the +2 WoE scythe. I'll see how many HtH WSs I can get off on qilin before he kills me now.

Edit: Nevermind. I copied to the test server before I had T3 ashen. Anything else you would want it tested on?

Scythe WS on what? Also, how much INT did you have and how much MP did it give back?

[Atoreis]

was this whit 5/5 upgrades or just 1?

Scythe is INT not STR mod but yeah 5/5 with Apocalypse and +39 INT and I was doing 2000-2200 too. (EP bird in abyssea w/o Atmas and w/o cruors)

Gsword with 103+94 STR was also around 2000-2200 but with +2WoE gsword. Tried Torcleaver too and I was getting better results even w/o changing equip to VIT. So maybe good WS for WAR with Gsword like Ragnarok but looks like nothing changed for DRKs (both scythes and gswords).

[Soho]

Is there a limit on total upgrades to WS's? Are we going to have to pick and choose which we want?

[Byrthnoth]

Pick and choose. You get 15 upgrades worth of WS category, with 5 upgrades per WS max.

Dagger Summary:
1.0 fTP, 100% AGI at 5/5 merits, 4 hits
-20 Accuracy additional effect, which currently lasts for 90 seconds regardless of what TP you use it at.
Fragmentation/Scission

It's a Dancing Edge/Evisceration killer at the moment outside Abyssea, but not very useful stacked or for skillchaining on DNC. Them's the breaks.

[pancakesandsex]

Is there a limit on total upgrades to WS's? Are we going to have to pick and choose which we want?

15 total, 5 to cap.

[muhn]

here are some great axe ws numbers. Was playing around in sky on flamingos using my 80 ukon with str 155 vit 118 and eating rcb 3035 2004 2834 3253 2224

[Forte]

What I mean about the lvl 99 SMN earring is this one:

. Rare Exclusive
Earring
.
Lv99 SMN

Any idea what that is?

[InsaniacTHF]

Derp. I'm on 0 sleep. I thought it was STR. Let's see. Twilight helm plus w/e is on the other 4 pieces of the DRK emp set. It was 5/5 and it was in terrigan mostly on lizards. The only buff I had up was hasso.

[pnavaja]

Scythe is INT not STR mod but yeah 5/5 with Apocalypse and +39 INT and I was doing 2000-2200 too. (EP bird in abyssea w/o Atmas and w/o cruors)

Gsword with 103+94 STR was also around 2000-2200 but with +2WoE gsword. Tried Torcleaver too and I was getting better results even w/o changing equip to VIT. So maybe good WS for WAR with Gsword like Ragnarok but looks like nothing changed for DRKs (both scythes and gswords).

Can you try both Ws Scythe and GS a few times whit 200-300 tp please?

[TummieGaruda]

Has anyone tested how much of a difference in damage 1/5 merits is versus 5/5?

[Atoreis]

Can you try both Ws Scythe and GS a few times whit 200-300 tp please?

Changed to MNK already. I did one 300TP Resolution and it did 2200. Scythe damage doesn't scale with TP.

[Nightfyre]

Has anyone tested how much of a difference in damage 1/5 merits is versus 5/5?

Pretty severe cut in WSC%. 5/5 is 100% WSC, 1/5 is probably ~20% (earlier test suggested 17% iirc). 20% would allow it to scale by 20% for each merit.