Test Server Findings

[geno3302]

Random Staff testing in Abyssea-Ule on EP Spectators.
SMN/SAM
Atma: AoA, SA, VV
Hvergelmir(85) DMG: 93
ATT:870 (with drink)
STR 82+146
INT 96+41
Most WSs were around 3k DMG 2.8-3.3k with a high of 5385.

Only did 1 test for the M.DEF down.
No avatar boosting gear, 5/5 heavenly strike, shiva had over 100TP both times. Heavenly Strike hit for 2104. After WS Heavenly Strike did 2303.

Now before I go work on a horrible paper...SMN Melee 4tw:

[phafi]

Dunno what there is to know about white proc in voidwatch but i got it with combo on Sarimanok.

Spoiler: show

[Foldypaws]

Dunno what there is to know about white proc in voidwatch but i got it with combo on Sarimanok.

How long did it stagger the mob for?

[Forte]

Random Staff testing in Abyssea-Ule on EP Spectators.
SMN/SAM
Atma: AoA, SA, VV
ATT:870 (with drink)
STR 82+146
INT 96+41
Most WSs were around 3k DMG 2.8-3.3k with a high of 5385.

Only did 1 test for the M.DEF down.
No avatar boosting gear, 5/5 heavenly strike, shiva had over 100TP both times. Heavenly Strike hit for 2104. After WS Heavenly Strike did 2303.

Now before I go work on a horrible paper...SMN Melee 4tw:

Fucking god now that moron has more ammo for his 'melee SMN onry' bullshit on the official forums.

[sanity69]

Didn't take Attributes or gear + but it's the typical rampage setup for BST used to test ruinator at 5/5. Tested on dynamis mobs in qufim and was hitting 2500-2900 solidly. Plenty of spots to take out DEX and put in STR now it isnt a crit WS. Something is finally gonna replace rampage....

[VZX01]

Hmm... why I have this hunch the stat mod they put is likely to be a cop-out on test server (just to get people able to play with it). If all WS really have 100% stat mod, then clearly, club WS is the winner being 7 hit. Unless there's some hidden attack penalty like Penta Thrust, the WS mods are too good to be true for me.

[phafi]

30~45seconds maybe?

EDIT:
[21:22:12]Phaffi's attack devastates the fiend!
[21:22:12]Synchronic blitz commences!
[21:22:12]Assail the fiend with all your strength!
[21:22:13]Your alignment has reached maximum level across the spectrum.
[21:22:13]You are perfectly aligned with your foe!
[21:22:13]All temporary items are recharged!

...

[21:22:43]Synchronic blitz complete.
[21:22:43]Alignment increases by 9% across the spectrum!
[21:22:43]Blue: 350% / Red: 350%
[21:22:43]Yellow: 225% / Green: 225%
[21:22:43]White: 100%

so, 30seconds.

[Karbuncle]

Fucking god now that moron has more ammo for his 'melee SMN onry' bullshit on the official forums.

With Damage like that, the problem is... Its not really that bad on Shitty Content like Abyssea? Original Complaint: SMN melee damage was awful.

WS that averages 3k dmg now... so, The problem doesn't really exist now. If a SMN wants to go play Glass-Cannon on shit of no Consequence, Have at ye.

Just keep it smart ;D

[Ziero]

...possibly stupid question but:

On the official announcement bit of the WSs, it says that the only requirements to using a WS is if the "main job" has high enough skill and then lists the jobs that can use each WS. And for the marksmanship one...it says Thf can use it. Does this mean Thf can actually use it naturally or is it just that thf can use it if /rng or /cor or something? Cause I find it odd that they'd give Thf a naturally usable Ranged WS...though I personally think it would be cool if they did.

[Septimus]

I love Wookies .

Fixed it for you.

And I fixed that for you.

[Karbuncle]

...possibly stupid question but:

On the official announcement bit of the WSs, it says that the only requirements to using a WS is if the "main job" has high enough skill and then lists the jobs that can use each WS. And for the marksmanship one...it says Thf can use it. Does this mean Thf can actually use it naturally or is it just that thf can use it if /rng or /cor or something? Cause I find it odd that they'd give Thf a naturally usable Ranged WS...though I personally think it would be cool if they did.

THF Being on the Gun, I can only assume they can use it... I hope.

Would definitely need confirmation.

[VZX01]

THF marksmanship cap at 95 is 350, so 357 is the cap for lv96 THF marksmanship

[Yukari]

THF Being on the Gun, I can only assume they can use it... I hope.

Would definitely need confirmation.

What gun are you talking about?

[Colenzo]

Think he meant the marksmanship merit WS.

[phafi]

not going to reread the last 238975893645 pages to see if the new temp list was posted yet but:
Lucid Potion II
Lucid Potion II
Lucid Potion III
Lucid Ether II
Lucid Ether II
Lucid Ether III
Healing Powder
Healing Powder
Healing Mist
Mana Powder
Mana Powder
Mana Mist
Healing Salve I
Healing Salve II
Clear Salve II (I don't remember if we have this one currently or not)
Vicar's Drink
Cleric's Drink
Dusty Wing
Stalwart's Tonic
Ascetic's Tonic
Champion's Tonic
Dusty Reraise
Fanatic's Drink
Fool's Drink
Monarch's Drink
Braver's Drink
Gnostic's Drink

[Karbuncle]

Think he meant the marksmanship merit WS.

This, Sorry, Didn't know if it was a gun or Crossbow, Naturally assumed gun what with COR Being on it.

I'm under the impression you unlock the WS with Magian trial first?

[Radec]

Re: Shijin Spiral, those tests were done in DEX: 91+36 - for a 100%DEX ws, that's extremely low.

Weapon/---/---/Demonry Core
Aias/Moepapa/4dex/4dex
Kirin/Hachiryu/Rajas/Thundersoul
Aife's/Pipilaka/Haidate/Relic+1
is +90 dex, probably some better swaps to cover attack still, but should boost it up quite a bit.

Not saying it's a VSmite killer, that's obviously not the case, but if the virus effect is decent it could be worthwhile.

[geno3302]

Fucking god now that moron has more ammo for his 'melee SMN onry' bullshit on the official forums.

Whoa there buddy, I think you're thinking of someone else. SMN melee is decent enough to work in abyssea, god damn BRD can melee in there...with this WS it kind of sealed the deal. Anything can be a DD in abyssea EXP.
This is the only thing I've ever posted about SMN melee on the official forums and it's 100% true and opinionated:

I have Hvergelmir and I'd like to say I am very happy with it. Not even counting the damage you can do having fun meleeing, the MP gain is amazing. I can pop on Atma of the Sea Daughter and get about 20MP/tick. That means while soloing I can spam BP Rage and Ward and never run out of MP. You can't do that with just MM. Even outside of abyssea, my BLM and SMN have no problem with MP in new content like Voidwatch. This staff gives you a limitless supply of MP, it is worth it for the weaponskill. I'll also that it is quite fun to play melee SMN with this thing. 600-700 dmg crits are awesome.

My only complaint: Aftermath doesn't extend to spells/avatars

[Colenzo]

This, Sorry, Didn't know if it was a gun or Crossbow, Naturally assumed gun what with COR Being on it.

I'm under the impression you unlock the WS with Magian trial first?

You gotta like do some quest to open up the new merit category thing in the merit menu then you just have to get merits and dump them in there to get the weaponskills.

[ronin sparthos]

You don't need to be /rng to use the ranged WS.

Cannon Shell / Culverin+1 THF? lol