Test Server Findings

**Prothescar** · 2011-12-01 12:32

Originally Posted by VZX01

Requiscat reported by Gobli has no SC properties :[

They didn't try very hard. It's Gravitation at least, didn't look for the second property as it is T1.

**TummieGaruda** · 2011-12-01 12:34

Originally Posted by Spira

keep in mind its still test server and enough bitching can change things here and there lol..

I think the weapon skills need to be changed. I can only speak for Blade: Shun, Stardiver, and Last Stand, but it's really sad that if you put 1 merit to unlock the weaponskill, it gets out-damaged by weaponskills we learned 20-40 levels ago. When I tested Last Stand naked with Bedlam +2 and Oro Bullet, my Detonators were 750 ish, Last Stand was 930-970, and Slugshots were in the high 1200's on EP Gobs in Terrigan. It took about 3/5 merits to push Last Stand to be around the same damage as Slugshot.

If we are going to be spending 10 merits to open up the weaponskill, they should at least out-damage level 50-60 ones.

**Julian** · 2011-12-01 12:41

Originally Posted by TummieGaruda

I think the weapon skills need to be changed. I can only speak for Blade: Shun, Stardiver, and Last Stand, but it's really sad that if you put 1 merit to unlock the weaponskill, it gets out-damaged by weaponskills we learned 20-40 levels ago. When I tested Last Stand naked with Bedlam +2 and Oro Bullet, my Detonators were 750 ish, Last Stand was 930-970, and Slugshots were in the high 1200's on EP Gobs in Terrigan. It took about 3/5 merits to push Last Stand to be around the same damage as Slugshot.

If we are going to be spending 10 merits to open up the weaponskill, they should at least out-damage level 50-60 ones.

If they did that, then what would be the point of forcing us into only being able to maximize 3 of them?

Don't get me wrong, I don't like the system. I would much rather they just give us the WS's naturally (whether they outperform the old ones or not), and then, maybe, let us merit not only these new WS's, but other WS's as well. Like say, for each weapon type you get to spend 5 points or something, so you can choose which WS you want to soup up. So if you have a Masamune, and want fudo to be your strongest WS, then you'll merit fudo. If you have an Amano, you get to merit kaiten, etc.

Everyone gets all the pretty animations, new WS doesn't automatically trash old ones, and all empy/relic/mythic weapons are viable.

**Goon** · 2011-12-01 12:42

Don't know if this was mentioned, but you could buy Porter Slips 12 and 13 from the Porter Moogle on Test Server now. They are both called . and trading them to the GM Moogle doesn't fill them up. 12 allows you to store -1s and 13 stores +2s.

**Slycer** · 2011-12-01 12:44

Originally Posted by Julian

If the update on friday doesn't identify these items, I am planning on modifying the item dat myself so that we can distinguish between all of these "."'s. Sometime this weekend, probably.

I would be interested in that to find out, for example, if all of the "." items for upgrading relic armor to relic+2 armor are the same, or whether they differ by equipment slot and/or job.

**hexagram23** · 2011-12-01 12:53

Is there any info or indication that they are adding more spells and JAs 96-99? Aside from the ones already on the test server I mean. What's been shown so far doesn't seem like much.

**skyrant** · 2011-12-01 12:53

Thief ~ Exenterator

Video: Thief (720p)

No buffs or abilities except Haste Samba.

Mobs: Ornamental Weapons, Vu'Legonnan Palace, Tu'Lia
Armor: AF+2 and Accessories, Atheling Mantle, Raja's, Supanomimi, Twillight Belt
Weapon DMG: 47 (Daka+2), Triplus Dagger
AGI: 99+22 (121)

Merit - Damage (Average)
1 - 688
5 - 1286
5 - 1400 (TP 300%) saw up to 1800

Reference Weaponskills:
Rudra's Storm: 1000
Dancing Edge: 1300

Ninja ~ Blade: Shun

Video: Youtube (720p)

No buffs or abilities except Haste Samba.

Mobs: Ornamental Weapons, Vu'Legonnan Palace, Tu'Lia
Armor: AF+2 and Accessories, Atheling Mantle, Raja's, Supanomimi, Twillight Belt
Weapon DMG: 47 (Tobi+2), Oriandori
Weapon DMG: 53
DEX: 95+50 (145)

Merit - Damage
1 - 550-650
2 - 750-800
3 - 850-1000
4 - 1000-1300
5 - 1300-1576
5 - 1600 (TP 300%)

Reference Weaponskills:
Blade: Jin 1200
Blade: Hi 1800

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**Slycer** · 2011-12-01 12:54

Originally Posted by hexagram23

Is there any info or indication that they are adding more spells and JAs 96-99? Aside from the ones already on the test server I mean. What's been shown so far doesn't seem like much.

Whatever JAs are being added haven't been put in the game yet outside of the new COR roll. I'm sure there will be some, plus there are the new weapon skills either way. For now, I think the spells on the test server are all the spells we're getting, but I wouldn't be surprised if there was a new category of merits (I think this has been referred to by SE in the past) some time down the road that adds new stuff specific to level 99.

**Nightfyre** · 2011-12-01 12:57

Originally Posted by Motenten

So where can I find actual test data for the weaponskills posted? All I've seen so far is copying Gobli and random weaponskills on VWNMs.

Byrth tested the dagger WS, I think there was some testing on polearm and archery WS in here as well.

If my install isn't fucked again I'll try and grab some data before events tonight.

**Yukari** · 2011-12-01 12:58

Hmmm.... The damage on those WSs seem a tad low in comparison to what others were getting. Mind posting your WS set?

**TummieGaruda** · 2011-12-01 12:59

Originally Posted by Julian

If they did that, then what would be the point of forcing us into only being able to maximize 3 of them?

Don't get me wrong, I don't like the system. I would much rather they just give us the WS's naturally (whether they outperform the old ones or not), and then, maybe, let us merit not only these new WS's, but other WS's as well. Like say, for each weapon type you get to spend 5 points or something, so you can choose which WS you want to soup up. So if you have a Masamune, and want fudo to be your strongest WS, then you'll merit fudo. If you have an Amano, you get to merit kaiten, etc.

Everyone gets all the pretty animations, new WS doesn't automatically trash old ones, and all empy/relic/mythic weapons are viable.

I understand that, but why not have 1 merit unlock the weaponskill to be on par with older stronger weaponskills and then allow merits to increase the damage while keeping them balanced and behind relic/mythic/emp weaponskills (Whichever is the strongest of the 3 for that weapon)?

**Yugl** · 2011-12-01 12:59

Foldypaws tested Stardiver somewhere (I think roughly pg 70s).

**skyrant** · 2011-12-01 13:04

Originally Posted by Yukari

Hmmm.... The damage on those WSs seem a tad low in comparison to what others were getting. Mind posting your WS set?

It's all in the post. For comparison and simplicity i will always wear the full AF+2 (incl. Accessories) and the WoE Empy +2, Raja's, Supanomimi (other exceptions will be listed). Main attribute is listed as well as any other armor. No special WS set, you can all optimize yourself.

**Motenten** · 2011-12-01 13:20

Originally Posted by Yugl

Foldypaws tested Stardiver somewhere (I think roughly pg 70s).

Yes, post 1450, page 73. Gave rough estimate of values based on about 10 weaponskills, but no real finely controlled testing. Too many assumptions being tossed around, not enough precise testing so we can do real comparisons.

Masamune · 2011-12-01 13:24

Originally Posted by skyrant

Thief ~ Exenterator

5 - 1400 (TP 300%) saw crits up to 1800

i don't understand something there: Exenterator description states clearly the fTP effect affects ONLY the mob's accuracy down duration, so that means this WS can NOT crit at all ! Maybe you meant those high 1800ish numbers were from:
- landing all hits +
- triple/double attacks +
- and maybe also on top of non mentioned def down effects/berserk up?

**Nightfyre** · 2011-12-01 13:40

It's like Gekko, secret ability to crit.

Spoiler: show

**skyrant** · 2011-12-01 13:46

Originally Posted by Masamune

i don't understand something there: Exenterator description states clearly the fTP effect affects ONLY the mob's accuracy down duration, so that means this WS can NOT crit at all ! Maybe you meant those high 1800ish numbers were from:
- landing all hits +
- triple/double attacks +
- and maybe also on top of non mentioned def down effects/berserk up?

Yes, sorry for the confusion. I did not mean critical hits but a critical result. I changed the wording.

As you can see from the post, NO buffs or JA's where used to not mess with results.

**Mojo** · 2011-12-01 13:53

Honestly, if you want to contribute good WS data, try and find fTP values for the first hit and subsequent, and total number of hits. TW mobs are the best for this.

**skyrant** · 2011-12-01 14:08

Originally Posted by Mojo

Honestly, if you want to contribute good WS data, try and find fTP values for the first hit and subsequent, and total number of hits. TW mobs are the best for this.

I have no idea how to do that. sorry, not a number cruncher here.

**Slycer** · 2011-12-01 14:19

Full translation from JP for all non-Nyzul armor/weapons. Spoilered for hugeness.

There's one mage piece which I think is screwed up in the dats because the same stats appear in three separate slots (body, legs, and hands gear with exactly the same stats - INT+10 MND+10 Magic Attack Bonus+10 Fast Cast (+5) Enmity-10, and those stats would be ridiculously broken in hands and legs slots)

Armor

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Weapons (incl. grips and ammo)

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