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  1. #1801
    Yoshi P
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    What's the mod on the sword WS? Haven't seen it mentioned anywhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ciecle View Post
    Martial Mastery is the ws quest, to infinity and beyond is the LB, i just did it again to make sure it wasn't a fluke.(did it 3 times prior to saying it though... 4th time for clarification etc?)
    Interesting. I just wanted clarification since Genkai 6-9 were just merit points. It seems kind of odd that Limit Break quest (fight the Taru of ultimate destruction) is so much harder than the Weapon Skill quest. (Waste 15 merit points.)

    Good luck to anyone who wants to beat Genkai 10 that isn't part of the initial rush and doesn't have a good linkshell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fantasticdan View Post
    What's the mod on the sword WS? Haven't seen it mentioned anywhere.
    Mind, which I am fine with, since I have a bunch of MND gear already for lolKotR

  4. #1804
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    Quote Originally Posted by Byrthnoth View Post
    Yeah, it's definitely 20% at one merit. I guess SE messed up.

    One Merit, Last Stand (Marksmanship)

    100TP:
    Normal Shot: 570 = 190 Base Damage + fSTR2
    WS Shot: 1248 (107 AGI) = 2 fTP, 18 damage from WSC
    WS Shot: 1308 (107 AGI) = 2.1 fTP
    WS Shot: 1260 (122 AGI) = 2 fTP, 20 damage from WSC
    WS Shot (200 TP): 1326 (107 AGI) = 2.125 fTP
    WS Shot (300 TP): 1416 (122 AGI) = 2.25 fTP

    So the WS is 20% AGI and 2/2.125/2.25 fTP

    Two Merits:
    WS Shot: 1356 (107 AGI) = 36 from WSC, indicating a 40% mod and SE's descriptions being wrong.

    Three Merits:
    WS Shot: 1464 (107 AGI) = 54 from WSC, indicating a 60% mod and SE's descriptions being wrong.

    Four Merits:
    WS Shot: 1572 (107 AGI) = 72 from WSC, indicating an 80% mod and SE's descriptions being wrong.

    Five Merits:
    WS Shot: 1680 (107 AGI) = 90 from WSC, indicating a 100% mod and SE's descriptions being wrong.
    90/107 =~ 17%x5
    72/107 =~ 17%x4
    ...
    18/107 =~ 17%

    What am I missing? How does 90/107 indicate 100%?

  5. #1805
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khamsin View Post
    90/107 =~ 17%x5
    72/107 =~ 17%x4
    ...
    18/107 =~ 17%

    What am I missing? How does 90/107 indicate 100%?
    Because there is a lvl correct factor...

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    Any news about Relic's weapon trial? still "." item?

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    I have a feeling these WS might be nerfed a bit before they hit the actual game.

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    Why most of them are very good but not game breaking especially considering they wont beat 80% of empy WS because of aftermath.


    Anyone have any idea how to bring more food on test server. RCB ended only carbonara+1 left :/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khamsin View Post
    90/107 =~ 17%x5
    72/107 =~ 17%x4
    ...
    18/107 =~ 17%

    What am I missing? How does 90/107 indicate 100%?
    You didn't account for alpha. 107 * 0.85 = 90.95 => 90

  10. #1810
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atoreis View Post
    Why most of them are very good but not game breaking especially considering they wont beat 80% of empy WS because of aftermath.


    Anyone have any idea how to bring more food on test server. RCB ended only carbonara+1 left :/
    Ask the moogle in your moghouse for items, theres an option for food somewhere and he's packing RCBs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by transmit View Post
    Ask the moogle in your moghouse for items, theres an option for food somewhere and he's packing RCBs.
    O thats nice Thx a lot!

    Btw Gaxe numbers with 94+57VIT, 999+attack with Mashu+2 on Kaggen
    1423,1798,1429,1465,1088,1094,1126
    Same buffs Ukko damage (no Blood rage)
    2064 1595 1182 1425 1837 1068


    Realmrazer (club) MND85+64, ClubDMG:35, 999+att on Kaggen
    Between 980 and 1348
    I would say pretty nice considering Dead Gratia base dmg.



    Another thing that comes to my mind for all those WS is multiattacks weapons. With so high WSC damage should be solid even with low base damage on weapon. I really wonder how 2-4 weapons would compare in DPS ( Mostly Im thinking about: club(KC), axe(2-4), Sword(2-4), Gun(2-4), H2H (2-4))

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    Blade: Shun looks like it's 1.0 fTP. Could potentially be slightly higher a la Shijin Spiral but I got a value that fits 3.15 pDIF perfectly once and haven't seen a higher one yet.

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    45 D weapon, 138 DEX, 10% critdmg

    567, 606, 599, 580, 590, 579, 541, 546, 568, 576, 578, 522, 591, 596, 554, 586, 586, 581, 577, 579


    Open to suggestions for testing the attack variance property. Moving on in the meantime... do we have an fTP value for Requiescat yet?

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    Random graphical/animation question. Shijin Spiral. Where is the fifth hit? There's the downward claw, the upward wind, the water spin kick, and then the bird backfist.... That's four. Is there a hit I'm just missing, or does the animation not show five?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Foldypaws View Post
    Random graphical/animation question. Shijin Spiral. Where is the fifth hit? There's the downward claw, the upward wind, the water spin kick, and then the bird backfist.... That's four. Is there a hit I'm just missing, or does the animation not show five?
    Looks like the water spin hits twice with feet.

  15. #1815
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    Quote Originally Posted by Foldypaws View Post
    Random graphical/animation question. Shijin Spiral. Where is the fifth hit? There's the downward claw, the upward wind, the water spin kick, and then the bird backfist.... That's four. Is there a hit I'm just missing, or does the animation not show five?
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...l=1#post224596

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    Uh, that's not accurate. (Edit: Which later posts go on to say) All of the h2h weapon skills that say they're more than one hit (combo, VS, stringing pummel, raging fists, etc...) are animated as the number of hits they say they are.

    It's only the "one hit" ones (final heaven, one inch punch, dragon kick) that are two hits in game but animated as one. Tornado kick being the only odd one out here.

    I'm willing to buy that the water kick is two hits though.

  17. #1817
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    Quote Originally Posted by ccf View Post
    Anyone willing to do some test regarding GAX new ws in how it compares to Ukko? No test server access and would like to know? Thanks!
    Just did a quick test with GAXE myself.
    I haven't done this in a while so my stuff might be a little off

    FTP values for Upheaval
    100/200/300
    1.0/1.5/2.0

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    Maschu +2 on Tiny Mandragoras.
    1 merit into the weaponskill
    Tarutaru WAR99/THF37 VIT:79
    D:126 expected base 148 (126/9)+8+126
    Crit+Crit Bonus = 3.15*1.08 = 3.402
    Highest Crit 502 / 3.402 147.56 (close to expected max base dmg)

    (79 agi* .20)*0.85 alpha = 12
    SA Upheaval 100% TP 547 dmg
    547/3.402=160.78 -> 160
    148(Base dmg) +12(WSC)=160
    160/160 = 1.0 FTP at 100%

    816 dmg at 200%
    816/3.402 = 239.85 -> 239
    148+12=160
    239/160=1.49
    ~1.50 FTP @200

    1088 dmg @300%TP
    1088/3.402 = 319.81 -> 319
    319/160=1.99
    ~2.0 FTP @300

    This is pretty quick math as I was in a hurry so if anyone wants to check these values on their own please feel free to do so

  18. #1818
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    Atori-Tutori ??? has approximately 25000 HP and there is a cap of 100~ damage done (per hit) on it. Multiple Spinning Dive/Tachi: Fudo/Thunderstorm(lvl 5)/ES Thunder V always did less than 100 dmg, Nether Blast 100 dmg, Predator Claw (3 hits) 250 dmg, Rush (5 hits) 480 dmg and Feint+SA+AC+Berserk Evisceration 555 dmg. (all of these attacks were done by behind to avoid Guard)

  19. #1819
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    Quote Originally Posted by Foldypaws View Post
    Uh, that's not accurate. (Edit: Which later posts go on to say) All of the h2h weapon skills that say they're more than one hit (combo, VS, stringing pummel, raging fists, etc...) are animated as the number of hits they say they are.
    whoosh >.>

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    it was a bad joke, ik

  20. #1820
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    Whirlwind kick, it's 2 hits.

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