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    I think that Stardiver's Crit Rate -% is likely on the order of +5% Crit rate, and it lasts 1 minute regardless of TP at the moment.
    WAR with SQ, GH, RR, 5/5 merits = 85% base rate
    Base = Non-crit pretty quickly (1 WS)
    Base + Rancor Collar = Non-crit pretty quickly (2 WS worth)
    Base - SQ + DD (95% base) = Can't get a non-crit (5 WSs worth)
    I was using a 1H weapon (tempting the gods of Fencer) for all the tests after the initial Stardiver to put the debuff on. Fencer cannot cap my crit hit rate though (for some reason, idk how it works), so non-crits with Fencer are still valid. Someone on FFXIAH (Xyph) might d-box me a k-club, so I'll test more after that.

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    スターダイバー 倍率全段有効の模

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    ゴルゲベルト=ゴルゲ+ベルト = (Elemental) Gorget + Belt. So they're saying using them will bring significant increase on WS damage.
    Entropy is Scythe WS. Still in the context of non 1.00 fTP, they're unsure whether fTP of 1st hit carries on subsequent hits.

    Pretty interesting... I wonder if that means gorget's 0.1 applies to all hit for those WSs.
    You quotranslated them correctly as "applies to first hit only".

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    can someone translate the element of those WS? Studio Gobli has them done, but I am having trouble finding the corresponding elemental gorgets. Thanks.

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    Shijin Spiral Fusion/Reverberation
    Exenterator Fragmentation/Scission
    Requiscat Gravitation/Scission
    Resolution Fragmentation/Scission
    Ruinator Distortion/Detonation
    Upheavel Fusion/Compression
    Entropy Gravitation/Reverberation
    Stardiver Gravitation/Transfixion
    Shun Fusion/Impaction
    Shoha Fragmentation/Compression
    Realmrazer Fusion/Impaction
    Shattersoul Gravitation/Induration
    Apex Arrow Fragmentation/Transfixion
    Last Stand Fusion/Reverberation

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    Quote Originally Posted by VZX01 View Post
    ゴルゲベルト=ゴルゲ+ベルト = (Elemental) Gorget + Belt. So they're saying using them will bring significant increase on WS damage.
    Entropy is Scythe WS. Still in the context of non 1.00 fTP, they're unsure whether fTP of 1st hit carries on subsequent hits.


    You quotranslated them correctly as "applies to first hit only".
    I don't see where they said gorget's 0.1 applies to only the first hit for those WS that use first's ftp for all hits. If they think gorget effect stardriver significantly, wouldn't that mean gorget's 0.1 applies to all hit for that ws?

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    Quote Originally Posted by VZX01 View Post
    [pre]Shijin Spiral Fusion/Reverberation
    Exenterator Fragmentation/Scission
    Requiscat Gravitation/Scission
    Resolution Fragmentation/Scission
    Ruinator Distortion/Detonation
    Upheavel Fusion/Compression
    Entropy Gravitation/Reverberation
    Stardiver Gravitation/Transfixion
    Shun Fusion/Impaction
    Shoha Fragmentation/Compression
    Realmrazer Fusion/Impaction
    Shattersoul Gravitation/Induration
    Apex Arrow Fragmentation/Transfixion
    Last Stand Fusion/Reverberation[/pre]
    Thank you. I think each of them have 4 elemental gorget/belt available to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nameless View Post
    I don't see where they said gorget's 0.1 applies to only the first hit for those WS that use first's ftp for all hits. If they think gorget effect stardriver significantly, wouldn't that mean gorget's 0.1 applies to all hit for that ws?
    And it's to say something when they say 倍率全段有効の模 = fTP pattern follows on subsequent hit
    So if first hit is increased by 0.2 with gorget+belt, then it's 26.66..% increase on all hits

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    I thought Stardiver was "Duration varies with TP" so shouldn't it last longer with more TP?

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    Quote Originally Posted by VZX01 View Post
    And it's to say something when they say 倍率全段有効の模 = fTP pattern follows on subsequent hit
    So if first hit is increased by 0.2 with gorget+belt, then it's 26.66..% increase on all hits
    Right, that's what I meant, so gorget and belt are fixtures for those WS that uses ftp of first hit across the board, as well as I guess moonshade with tp bonus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ophannus View Post
    I thought Stardiver was "Duration varies with TP" so shouldn't it last longer with more TP?
    No, Damage varies with TP.

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    Hmmm reading the comments below it..

    First someone said their DRG thread reporting Stardiver has its fTP ranging on all hits
    Then the person after that said "Someone also wrote it occurs on great sword WS too"
    The next poster say "it seems entropy also has fTP ranging on all hits too"

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    that would make the GS ws incredible since it has the highest ftp on the first hit and it is 5 hits... but GK's ratio bonus WS is pretty sick too if it is anything significant like gekko.

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    Hmm. That seems weird. I'll do some Mighty Strikes Stardiver testing to see if I can hammer out whether that's true or not.

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    Nameless, may I ask what mobs you were testing Resolution on?

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    Moth in Halvang, also did Kaggen. Both time the results are lower than Torcleaver. However, I didn't use gorget/belt cuz I didn't know which to use. That should make a huge difference. I was gearing for accuracy/str/att.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nameless View Post
    Moth in Halvang, also did Kaggen. Both time the results are lower than Torcleaver. However, I didn't use gorget/belt cuz I didn't know which to use. That should make a huge difference. I was gearing for accuracy/str/att.
    Alright, I will go try them.

    I was not really certain where to start testing, so I began in Zeruhn with Easy Prey. Naturally, Resolution outdid Torcleaver consistently, so I went to Abyssea for a while to try. I did not expect the gap to be so wide between Torcleaver and Resolution.

    Atma: VV RR Apoca
    Gear: Espafut +2 (higher damage than my caladbolg 85)
    Twilight Helm/Thunder Gorget/Brutal Earring/Bale Earring
    Twilight Mail/Bale Gauntlet +2/Spiral Ring/Rajas Ring
    Atheling Mantle/Thunder Belt/Bale Flanchard +2/Jingang Greaves

    DC-EM Dolls in Altepa, Torc varied from 2,000 to 2,800, 3,167 highball. Resolution varied from 2,726 lowball, mostly 3400 to 4400. Highball 5,239.

    I changed to SA/VV/A&O and tried again. Highball on an EM was 6,219. <.< I performed fifty to sixty Resolutions total, laughing like a madman just 'cause. I am seeking stronger mobs to test it out on now.

    * all weaponskills, Torc and Reso alike, were performed at 100-140 TP (triple attack took tp higher than planned sometimes) with Last Resort, Red Curry Bun, and Endark active.

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    Resolution benefits greatly from being in abyssea. If you use Apoc and A/O, you are almost certainly going to hit 8 times every WS, since each hit will then have 25% chance of TAing. However, as mobs start to get harder, Resolution becomes more inconsistent while Torcleaver largely stays the same. In abyssea you don't have to worry about ACC, so I wouldn't use that as place to test as Resolution should clearly perform better there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darkepyon View Post
    Great stuff! I like how you show them at different angles.
    Thanks, i added some more...

    New Weapon Skill Videos (Incl. Slow Motion)

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    Something about the wamoura is skewing my results. Resolution was indeed inferior to Torcleaver at wamoura, but when I switched to testing on trolls, Resolution pulled ahead again.

    I went to VT worms in Gustav, and Torcleaver/Resolution were quite close.

    Torc:

    2133
    2167
    2259
    2341
    2067
    2172

    Resolution:

    2105
    2231
    1738 (missed a hit or two)
    2069
    2188
    2207

    Alas I am late for Dynamis and must stop testing for now. I am confused about the wamoura, though. Bats, worms, trolls, and bombs tell me Resolution > Torcleaver, wamoura tell me Torcleaver >>> Resolution, even when all hits connect. I am baffled.

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