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**bechyni** · 2013-01-02 16:59

Originally Posted by Khajit

Clearly you weren't around back when thf after lv 60 didn't exist because from that point on it was a subjob.

I was, but suggesting that it would hold any weight today is lol

**Dotsudoku** · 2013-01-02 17:00

Originally Posted by Khajit

Clearly you weren't around back when thf after lv 60 didn't exist because from that point on it was a subjob.

Back then -> Nobody played the job, save one person for treasure hunter

Now -> Nobody plays the job, save one person for treasure hunter

**Khajit** · 2013-01-02 17:12

Originally Posted by bechyni

I was, but suggesting that it would hold any weight today is lol

Clearly you underestimate the stupidity and/or lulziness of the average player. The last thing I need is to headdesk when people start demanding /thf to sata the tank for something come Audolin. It was already sad enough getting told to do that in abyssea.

**Buffy** · 2013-01-02 17:27

It was glorious how you posted every zone. I approve entirely.

**Economizer** · 2013-01-02 17:47

Originally Posted by Khajit

he locked it before i posted those screenshots of 300tp shoha on mandy with overwhelm, without overwhelm, with Sneak attack active, and regular melee crits vs sneak attack crits outside of windurst.

Care to post here? I wanna see the numbers. /curious

**Khajit** · 2013-01-02 18:08

Give me a few. I should probably redo the entire thing naked. My ws swaps were skewing things imo. normal crits were 340~350 while sneak attacks were 700+. I'll try and put together a basic max dex set too.
http://www.gwcdn.com/albums/images/5...1ded6a5779.jpg
Dmg 95 Keito+2. It's looking very clear already that adding in a dex set increased damage. changing to an event gkt now.

http://www.gwcdn.com/albums/images/5...1dec4bdc65.jpg
A very clear change here. First 3 are with dex gear on a dmg 1 gkt.
Last 3 are without any dex gear.

**noodles355** · 2013-01-02 18:30

Originally Posted by Dotsudoku

Back then -> Nobody played the job, save one person for treasure hunter

Now -> Nobody plays the job, save one person for treasure hunter

And yet Mandau is still the 2nd most made relic after Aegis.

**Dotsudoku** · 2013-01-02 18:53

There's no more appropriate juxtaposition

Public opinion hasn't changed. People are still just bored and stupid. Nobody wanted THF around then, nobody wants it around now

**fantasticdan** · 2013-01-02 19:21

Originally Posted by noodles355

And yet Mandau is still the 2nd most made relic after Aegis.

There are more 95+ rags than mandaus already.

**Karbuncle** · 2013-01-02 19:35

Originally Posted by Dotsudoku

There's no more appropriate juxtaposition

Public opinion hasn't changed. People are still just bored and stupid. Nobody wanted THF around then, nobody wants it around now

I agree that THF is pretty much a token TH Whore, I won't debate this.

Though, I wouldn't call making a relic for the job you favor playing stupid. Now, Making because you think its good/will make the job relevant, could be a little tarded, Outside of that, no. Surprisingly not everyones goals in a Video game is to get the biggest digital dick.

Then again, I could just be saying this cause i made Mandau since Thief/Rogue/Assassin classes are always my favorite. Your opinion on THF is valid, the idea that anyone making a mandau is bored and stupid, however, is far from anything but retarded in itself.

F**K yeah opinion fight :O

**Dotsudoku** · 2013-01-02 19:53

The 'stupid' portion probably sounded differently than I intended. I made a mythic that makes a horrible job barely competitive. I'm all for weapons for the jobs you like.

**TybudX** · 2013-01-03 01:32

Semi-serious question: How did this /thf SA bug get noticed in the first place? Were there VW gimps suddenly going from 1.8% to 2% of the parse?

**Prothescar** · 2013-01-03 01:39

DNC/THFs all over Dynamis let out a thunderous cry of redemption as their weaponskills broke 2k probably

**TybudX** · 2013-01-03 06:00

2k? ss or it didn't happen.

**shaggnix** · 2013-01-03 08:00

i believe a certain whm/thf found it

Originally Posted by Vyvian

When subbing thf, how much extra damage does sneak attack do?
When I read both BGWiki and ffxiclopedia, it implies that only THF main gets a damage bonus (1D:1DEX), but I was farming meteorite for the door quest in Quicksand, and it was a very obvious difference.
SA crits with my WHM club hit for 395~ damage and regular crits do less than 100.

**Churchill** · 2013-01-03 11:55

I really hope it was intended so you can feel even worse about THF being a terrible job

**pancakesandsex** · 2013-01-03 17:15

It makes me all warm inside when I take my thf to VW and outparse bad players on real DD jobs.

**Churchill** · 2013-01-03 17:18

I'm not sure whether to laugh at you or laugh at you.

**pancakesandsex** · 2013-01-03 17:22

Don't ruin this moment.

**noodles355** · 2013-01-03 22:55

Originally Posted by pancakesandsex

It makes me all warm inside when I take my thf to VW and outparse bad players on real DD jobs.

The main emotion I feel in those situations is pity.

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