The Official Forums III: It goes on forever, now.

[scaevola]

It does with Dancer sub, the only sub that you will ever ever need because the stun from Violent Flourish lands 100% of the time and never, ever, ever misses!

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Seriously, who do we have to bribe to get the "report a post for stupidity" button?

To be fair, I think he acknowledges VF is not 100% accurate, but it gets muddled in his pesky semi-literacy.

As for the Damage Dealing forum, there's really no reason to even consider reading a thread that starts with "Which job do you think is able to do most damage in long/short time?" unless you want to kick off your Saturday morning with a little disaster tourism.

[Kensagaku]

My head hurts...

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...l=1#post236143

DRKs = Pure DPS but lack an "awesome" weapon skill. I think they should be able to tank somewhat(not for this thread) and this job has been neglected through some of the updates. I do like the mp based weapon skill idea because that would force BRD and RDM to refresh them more often.

DRG = spam Drakesbane and can just solo on it's own(thus why we never see it in parties). I would like to see the wyvern grow in size as you level up to a full wyvern(not the size of Shinryu) and do other attacks than breathe and normal round robin.

SAM = pwnage as far as Great Katanas, decent at polearm and also decent at ranged so why can they ONLY use Namas Arrow(if you have relic bow upgraded) without Ranger sub? They can also solo light and darkness skill chains so they're a little OP right now. I'm sorry but when you can use 2 different abilities, not including 2 hr, and do 2 light or darkness sc's...that's kinda OP and no other job can do it(2 light or dark back-to-back...DNC can only self sc once).

THF = having TH as a trigger ability kinda messed up a lot of things. I'm not even sure if TH works with THF as a sub. I remember doing SAM/THF and doing 1k dmg with Tachi: Gekko at lvl 66. Steal and Mug on 5 minute CDs seems kinda high to me and maybe should be at 3 minutes(or less if they're 3 minute CDs now). THF should still be the "maintainer" of enmity.

DRKs should get an MP-based weapon skill so there's a reason to refresh them, DRGs SHOULD GET FUCKING BIGGER WYVERNS, (/rage), SAMs are overpowered because they can self-Skillchain Dark and Light, and TH doesn't work as a subjob!

NIN = DPS nin would use Innin. I don't know about others but my nin gets enmity really quick standing behind a mob and doing a critical hit every hit add into that doing a ws about ever 10 seconds and now the DPS nin is actually Tanking. Defeats the purpose of using Innin at this point. Innin should have an enmity - effect on it so the nin can focus on elemental spells(if it already does and/or has this, then it needs boosted). San spells don't do any where near the same dmg as Tier 3 BLM spells so they need a slight boost. NIN also has the most Catagory 2 merits to pick from. Sange, Nin Tool Expert, and 6 elemental San spells....need to balance the # of "abilities" in Cat. 2 and/or make the 6 San spells learnable from ra/ex scrolls that need to be quested and add 2-4 more abilities to get from the gap the san spells would make. I wouldn't mind seeing an actual Throwing weaponskill(or a couple) that can be learned via merits....would actually make Sange useful since it would use up the shadows you have left to throw something(up to 5x dmg on ws if you have +2 boots).

Wish, the end part's all yours. THROWING NINJA GO. Also apparently we should be using Innin and focusing on elemental ninjutsu because it totally doesn't lower our DPS by melee rounds or anything.

Relic, Mythic, Empy Weapons = As far as the couple of servers i've played on, none of the players(i'm generalizing here) do not help each other out with these unless you're in a Dynamis shell(but chances are, you're helping the LS Leader upgrade his/her weapon). Countless times i've been shouting for help for farming Briareus helms and NO ONE answers me. The sense of helping each other just isn't there anymore and it's turning me away from this game...

Hey guys, people don't help me out for no gain to themselves! I shout for Briareus but no one wants to help me! I'm even offering all the +2 items that have been offered in every other Briareus shout group and that people are probably capped on!

I'm just... gonna stop reading this thread. It looked so promising at the start...

[kamugi]

Wish, the end part's all yours. THROWING NINJA GO. Also apparently we should be using Innin and focusing on elemental ninjutsu because it totally doesn't lower our DPS by melee rounds or anything.

I wish there was a wish12oz signal =[
It could be lit every time a throwing ninja appears!

[Prothescar]

meh

[Evane]

TBH I liked his "Wyvern grow in size when level up." Change level up to the xp bonus thingy and make the wyvern grow to become as big as Diabolos. Add glowing aura as well (just cosmetic) and watch the tears flow from lag and such. Oh yea.. the aura should be made in the same way that blue/green light in CN was made. I know some people haven't even been to CN in their FFXI life.

[Ghost_Wheel22]

Throw Ninja throw Ninja go!

[pancakesandsex]

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...l=1#post237262

I laughed pretty hard at the Gary Busey comment.

[The Blackrose]

Tanaka should be the very last person to call something a mistake.

[Septimus]

Tanaka should be the very last person to call something a mistake.

Of course he considers Abyssea a mistake. It is the only reason people didn't quit the game in 2010 after that year of abject failure that was 2009. If it weren't for Abyssea Square's dream of having two MMOs that no one plays would have come true.

[TybudX]

Of course he considers Abyssea a mistake. It is the only reason people didn't quit the game in 2010 after that year of abject failure that was 2009. If it weren't for Abyssea Square's dream of having two MMOs that no one plays would have come true.

WotG came out in 2007, so it's more like 3 years of abject failure. The only thing that made the WotG expansion bearable was people slowly starting to realize Salvage wasn't difficult.

[Deader2818]

After reading official forums and AH, im 100% sure Mishaa is a moron.

[Greatguardian]

Who?

[Deader2818]

Natasha

[Septimus]

WotG came out in 2007, so it's more like 3 years of abject failure. The only thing that made the WotG expansion bearable was people slowly starting to realize Salvage wasn't difficult.

Wings of the Goddess came out in November 2007, we had 4 updates in 2008. In 2009 there were 3 updates with a lot of the content as the poorly written, poorly implemented pay-ten-dollars-for-a-piece-of-gear add-ons. As I look at posts on the official forums where people whine that Abyssea killed the game, they seem to forget how the game was slowly bleeding to death on the floor in 2009 and that Abyssea and the increased level cap were what sparked people's interest in the game again.

[Greatguardian]

Natasha

The one who spent pages upon pages freaking out about how adding new teleports ruined the game and everyone should have to walk/chocobo everywhere?

I got sick of reading that tripe and just gave up on that thread.

[GoggleHead]

They really need to add a "you're a flaming idiot" button next to that "Like" button.

[Greatguardian]

I would like that post.

[Greatguardian]

Double, but this got me laughing so hard, emphasis mine:

Nothing in abyssea is comparable to an overworld HNM, if anything its more like sea or sky. And you should have to work to get other job options up to par period, otherwise you might as well just make it so that when you have one job level'd you have them all level'd. Now please stop wasting my time by directly replying to me.

[Howie Roary]

what the hell kind of rhetoric is "Now please stop wasting my time by directly replying to me"?

[Septimus]

what the hell kind of rhetoric is "Now please stop wasting my time by directly replying to me"?

Either a "I am a complete narcissist who thinks that everything that falls out of my mouth is perfection" or "my arguments are so paper thin that light easily passes through them". Only options that I can think of.