NFL Week 1 - Tyche is laughed at, Miz still doesn't post, and Rhinox gets banned

[Rhinox]

Conversation is bad and you both should feel bad. Stop shiting up this thread this isn't a chatroom.

On a lighter note. per Peter king

Weirdest Stat of Day By Far Dept.: Kerry Collins passed Joe Montana on the all-time passing-yards list. Collins is now 10th.

[Man0warr]

I think the Peyton injury is a scam, they just want the next Peyton waiting in the wings for when he retires.

[Gadritan]

Not weird at all. Collins is up there on a lot of list. You should feel bad for posting that.

[Rhinox]

MMQB

11. Don't sleep on the Bears. As I have, of course. The Bills and Texans were dominant Sunday, but Chicago's foe, Atlanta, makes its performance -- it was 30-6 after three quarters, ended 30-12, and could have been worse -- so impressive. The Falcons got 386 yards, but the swarming Bear defense, led by Brian Urlacher, pestered Matt Ryan all day. And though Jay Cutler got hit too much and was sacked five times, he had enough time to throw for 312 yards and get the Bears in position to score on five of their first seven possessions. "As long as I've been here, the pressure's been on the offensive line,'' said Roberto Garza. "We know that. We accept it. It's up to us to come through and keep Jay clean. We're ready for that challenge.''

[Rhinox]

Not weird at all. Collins is up there on a lot of list. You should feel bad for posting that.

Peter king tweet homo not my words just thought was kinda funny an alcoholic journeyman put up those numbers.

[Diamicles]

Peter king tweet homo not my words just thought was kinda funny an alcoholic journeyman put up those numbers.

kerry collins is to football what craig biggio is to baseball

stick around for long enough with mediocre numbers and you can pile up some 'impressive' stats

[Conrad]

MMQB

11. Don't sleep on the Bears. As I have, of course. The Bills and Texans were dominant Sunday, but Chicago's foe, Atlanta, makes its performance -- it was 30-6 after three quarters, ended 30-12, and could have been worse -- so impressive. The Falcons got 386 yards, but the swarming Bear defense, led by Brian Urlacher, pestered Matt Ryan all day. And though Jay Cutler got hit too much and was sacked five times, he had enough time to throw for 312 yards and get the Bears in position to score on five of their first seven possessions. "As long as I've been here, the pressure's been on the offensive line,'' said Roberto Garza. "We know that. We accept it. It's up to us to come through and keep Jay clean. We're ready for that challenge.''

Grantland says the exact opposite:

The game turned on fumbles. There were five of them, and wouldn't you know — Chicago recovered all five. These weren't meaningless fumbles at the end of the game, either. Devin Hester fumbled on his own 25-yard line during the second play from scrimmage and recovered it. Hester then muffed a punt in the second quarter that would have given the Falcons the ball at midfield. After a Falcons drive at the end of the first quarter was ended in Bears territory by a Michael Turner fumble, the Bears broke the game open with a stripsack of Matt Ryan on Atlanta's second drive of the second half. Brian Urlacher picked up the fumble and took it to the house for a 30-6 lead. The only fumble that really came in garbage time was when Jay Cutler dropped one on his own 22-yard line with 5:31 left, and even that would have given the Falcons a faint glimmer of hope.

Contrary to what you might believe, recovering fumbles is not a Lovie Smith trademark. Despite having a reputation for building defenses that swarm the ball in the hopes of recovering fumbles at the end of plays, his defenses don't recover a particularly high percentage of the fumbles. Although there's a lot of fluctuation from year to year because of the small sample size, teams will recover about 50 percent of the fumbles over any significant length of time. One of the few ways in which the 2010 Bears weren't "lucky" was on fumbles. They combined to recover just 24 of the 57 balls that hit that ground, for a recovery rate of just better than 42 percent. The Bears should improve on that figure, but 5-for-5 isn't happening again anytime soon.

If the Falcons recover even one of the first three fumbles, the entire complexion of the game changes. The Falcons were forced to throw for most of the second half and faced an excellent Bears pass rush that teed off on Ryan. The Falcons star was sacked five times on Sunday after taking just 23 sacks during the entire 2010 season, and four of those sacks came during the second half, when there was no threat of a run game. Atlanta was also without center Todd McClure, who makes the line calls and adjusts the protections along with Ryan, and right guard Garrett Reynolds was making both his first NFL start and his first NFL appearance since December 2009.

Even the soft stuff went Chicago's way. Falcons safety Thomas DeCoud had two interceptions bounce out of his hands, including one in the end zone. Matt Forte's long catch-and-run for a touchdown saw Falcons linebacker Sean Weatherspoon deliver a particularly menacing nudge 20 yards downfield instead of attempting to wrap Forte with a tackle. Hester's 53-yard screen broke open when a Falcons defender slipped. The Bears did lose two players to injury during the game — but they were guard Lance Louis and wide receiver Roy Williams, arguably their two worst starters.

If you don't believe me, check with the man: The sportsbooks don't believe in Chicago yet, either. Even after their big win, the Bears opened as a seven-point underdog on the road against the Saints in Week 2, a figure that doesn't jibe whatsoever with how the two teams played during the opening week of the season. The Lions, meanwhile, opened up as 7.5-point favorites at home against the Chiefs, who made the playoffs last season (before looking gruesomely bad against the Bills at home this week). The Bears may very well end up being the better of these two teams, but despite the scores of their respective games, the Lions looked like the better team in Week 1.

[Deejay]

ITT: Injuries = Season enders onry!

If you want to pretend like injuries only affect starts then sure, knock yourself out. So there's no such thing as "playing injured" because by your definition, if they start they're not injured. Do I need to spell it out for you with alphabet refrigerator magnets? He can start all the games he wants but if he's at 50%, 70%, 80% health, that means he's still injured and can't give it is all every snap that he's in for. If I see a player laying on the ground 2-3 times a game, and always in the headlines for getting hurt in practice, then yes, the dude is injury prone.

1. You compared Mike Jenkins to BOB SANDERS. You either don't know what being injured means, (which you've made obvious) or you suck at making analogies. Bob Sanders is known for MISSING GAMES. Mike Jenkins has missed NONE. Your analogy failed from the second you hit send.

2. There is a difference between getting hurt and getting injured. If Mike Jenkins gets hurt a lot, then fine. SAY THAT - but being injured means he's unable to play.

THIS IS PEE WEE FOOTBALL KNOWDLEDGE. Coaches teach you the difference from when you're 8 YEARS OLD.



Injured = unable to play
Hurt = come out, shake it off, and continue on like a real man

[Rhinox]

So yeah remember that conversation we had about the top 5 rbs being a non factor thus not deserving the kinda guaranteed cash cj2k got? 4-5 their teams lost they werent a factor and foster didn't play and the team still dominated.

[Rhinox]

Grantland says the exact opposite:

Grantland called the bears pretenders by citing they won last year on plain luck and the fact that they faced 3rd string qbs while praising the packers who faced essentially the same teams. Dude is full of shit.

FYI lovies teams lead the league in forced turnovers since 2004.

[Deejay]

I can't believe I have to explain this preschool bullshit to Cowboys fans. How the hell do you guys call yourselves such avid football worshippers when you can't even demonstrate that you understand the game at even a preschool level.

[Rhinox]

RT @Jeff_McLane: Vick: It felt great to know I could go out there and play lights out ... Uh, 14 of 32 is lights out?

[Deejay]

I love when Cam is happy about a game, people bitch that he didn't win.

And then those same people bitch about Vick being happy after a game he won where he went 14-32 for 300 some odd yards.

[Chun Liroy]

I can't believe I have to explain this preschool bullshit to Cowboys fans. How the hell do you guys call yourselves such avid football worshippers when you can't even demonstrate that you understand the game at even a preschool level.

Jenkins got fucking lit up a couple times too, nigga had a rough night gonna be feeling that tomorrow.

[Deejay]

ITT: YOU CAN ONLY BE HAPPY IF YOU WIN BY 21 POINTS OR MORE DURING A GAME IN WHICH YOU PASSED FOR A 65% COMPLETION PERCENTAGE WITH NO TURNOVERS

[Rhinox]

It's DJ their isn't a black guy he wouldn't defend if the attack is coming from white guys

[Cail]

all I know, is my BQL team looks awesome... lolromo, loleli, and lolmcnabb...i'm so gonna win

[Chun Liroy]

I love the media ripping romo for having a bad game. Int wasn't totally his fault in my eyes (Dez even said it was his fault), the fumble was.

He's gonna play angry the rest of the season and it will be hilarious.

[Valisk]

1. You compared Mike Jenkins to BOB SANDERS. You either don't know what being injured means, (which you've made obvious) or you suck at making analogies. Bob Sanders is known for MISSING GAMES. Mike Jenkins has missed NONE. Your analogy failed from the second you hit send.

2. There is a difference between getting hurt and getting injured. If Mike Jenkins gets hurt a lot, then fine. SAY THAT - but being injured means he's unable to play.

THIS IS PEE WEE FOOTBALL KNOWDLEDGE. Coaches teach you the difference from when you're 8 YEARS OLD.

So what the fuck do you want me to say? He's "hurt prone"?! Take your semantics bullshit and gtfo.

I used Mr. Glass as a reference too. Do you want to argue that Mike Jenkins doesn't: A) look like Samuel L Jackson B) Walks with a cane C) rolls around in a wheelchair either?!

I also used verbage to indicate frequency. Jenkins is frequently injured hurt so I was comparing Bob Sanders frequency of being hurt injured.

[Diamicles]

Grantland called the bears pretenders by citing they won last year on plain luck and the fact that they faced 3rd string qbs while praising the packers who faced essentially the same teams. Dude is full of shit.

FYI lovies teams lead the league in forced turnovers since 2004.

in other words, people still saying the same thing about the bears that they have been since 2005.