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    Quote Originally Posted by Heavencloud View Post
    D'awww aww awwww awwwww

    kinda looks a bit like my cat, but man that's cuteness overload

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kerberoz View Post
    spoiler for retarded argument
    If someone drops a hula-hoop off a building onto you, you don't fly to the top of the building when it lands..
    my derpy derpy brain finally made sense of the scenario now.

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    Portal stuff:

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    I'll try to reword it then...

    The cube isn't moving while it's on the platform, true, but it IS moving when it exits the stationary blue portal. The state of the cube as it entered the portal doesn't matter. When it EXITED the portal, it is moving and would have no reason whatsoever to STOP moving at the same speed (not counting wind resistance and gravity, of course).

    As the item exits the blue portal, it is now in motion and the laws of inertia apply to it accordingly. These laws are based on the objects CURRENT state, not it's previous state. It doesn't matter how it started moving (in this case, it skips acceleration completely), it will continue moving.

    If you're staring at the blue portal as the cube exits it, you'll see it pop up as though shot. It's coordinates have changed in relation to the surface of the portal. This is the very definition of velocity, so why would it stop moving at the end of the cube's length? The cube doesn't have any memory of being at rest, it will only continue to do what it's current state tells it to do, which is move upwards at the same rate that it was already going (minus gravity and wind resistance, blah blah blah).

    I don't have any better way to explain this... Since it's an impossible scenario in the first place, I don't think infinite energy arguments are sufficient to disprove what I'm saying.

    And lets be clear, I'm continuing this discussion because I think it's an interesting and fun topic. I don't care how pointless it is, so you needn't bother pointing it out.



    Edit:

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    You're visualizing it from the perspective of the orange portal while I'm picturing it from that of the blue portal. The thing is, I don't think causality holds here. In a real world situation, yes, falling on the cube wouldn't cause it to gain any energy, but the effect from the perspective of the blue portal clearly shows that it DOES have energy (it's moving upward as it exits the portal). It can only happen because of the nature of the portals, but I think I'm right on what would have to happen.


    Edit2, since I can't make any more posts on the topic:

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    If the cube doesn't clear the blue portal as would be the case in the first pic, then I could see it staying still. If it definitely clears the blue portal as would be the case in the second pic, then would have to go flying.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tekki View Post
    very random birthday present came in today
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    Fuck yeah I love me some omaha steaks...

    portal crap
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    i don't understand how you are coming up with this theory sylvr. so then how do you account for if half the cube is placed through the portal? does the portal suck it up since half it's body was moved through the opposite portal? the answer to that is no btw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by quannum View Post
    thats a cool picutre of david tennant
    Looks more like Christopher Eccleston with hair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvrdragon View Post
    I'll try to reword it then...

    The cube isn't moving while it's on the platform, true, but it IS moving when it exits the stationary blue portal. The state of the cube as it entered the portal doesn't matter. When it EXITED the portal, it is moving and would have no reason whatsoever to STOP moving at the same speed (not counting wind resistance and gravity, of course).

    As the item exits the blue portal, it is now in motion and the laws of inertia apply to it accordingly. These laws are based on the objects CURRENT state, not it's previous state. It doesn't matter how it started moving (in this case, it skips acceleration completely), it will continue moving.

    If you're staring at the blue portal as the cube exits it, you'll see it pop up as though shot. It's coordinates have changed in relation to the surface of the portal. This is the very definition of velocity, so why would it stop moving at the end of the cube's length? The cube doesn't have any memory of being at rest, it will only continue to do what it's current state tells it to do, which is move upwards at the same rate that it was already going (minus gravity and wind resistance, blah blah blah).

    I don't have any better way to explain this... Since it's an impossible scenario in the first place, I don't think infinite energy arguments are sufficient to disprove what I'm saying.

    And lets be clear, I'm continuing this discussion because I think it's an interesting and fun topic. I don't care how pointless it is, so you needn't bother pointing it out.


    Next person that derail this thread into Portal physics gets banhammered.

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    edit: lolnvm.

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    Doesn't whatever you put the portal on have to be stationary anyways?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ragns View Post


    Next person that derail this thread into Portal physics gets banhammered.
    That needs to be a new header for the forums!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvrdragon View Post
    Portal stuff:

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    I'll try to reword it then...

    The cube isn't moving while it's on the platform, true, but it IS moving when it exits the stationary blue portal. The state of the cube as it entered the portal doesn't matter. When it EXITED the portal, it is moving and would have no reason whatsoever to STOP moving at the same speed (not counting wind resistance and gravity, of course).

    As the item exits the blue portal, it is now in motion and the laws of inertia apply to it accordingly. These laws are based on the objects CURRENT state, not it's previous state. It doesn't matter how it started moving (in this case, it skips acceleration completely), it will continue moving.

    If you're staring at the blue portal as the cube exits it, you'll see it pop up as though shot. It's coordinates have changed in relation to the surface of the portal. This is the very definition of velocity, so why would it stop moving at the end of the cube's length? The cube doesn't have any memory of being at rest, it will only continue to do what it's current state tells it to do, which is move upwards at the same rate that it was already going (minus gravity and wind resistance, blah blah blah).

    I don't have any better way to explain this... Since it's an impossible scenario in the first place, I don't think infinite energy arguments are sufficient to disprove what I'm saying.

    And lets be clear, I'm continuing this discussion because I think it's an interesting and fun topic. I don't care how pointless it is, so you needn't bother pointing it out.
    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_gSUnvB1aFR..._downeyjr1.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvrdragon View Post
    Portal stuff:

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    I'll try to reword it then...

    The cube isn't moving while it's on the platform, true, but it IS moving when it exits the stationary blue portal. The state of the cube as it entered the portal doesn't matter. When it EXITED the portal, it is moving and would have no reason whatsoever to STOP moving at the same speed (not counting wind resistance and gravity, of course).

    As the item exits the blue portal, it is now in motion and the laws of inertia apply to it accordingly. These laws are based on the objects CURRENT state, not it's previous state. It doesn't matter how it started moving (in this case, it skips acceleration completely), it will continue moving.

    If you're staring at the blue portal as the cube exits it, you'll see it pop up as though shot. It's coordinates have changed in relation to the surface of the portal. This is the very definition of velocity, so why would it stop moving at the end of the cube's length? The cube doesn't have any memory of being at rest, it will only continue to do what it's current state tells it to do, which is move upwards at the same rate that it was already going (minus gravity and wind resistance, blah blah blah).

    I don't have any better way to explain this... Since it's an impossible scenario in the first place, I don't think infinite energy arguments are sufficient to disprove what I'm saying.

    And lets be clear, I'm continuing this discussion because I think it's an interesting and fun topic. I don't care how pointless it is, so you needn't bother pointing it out.


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    Don't mean to nitpick but I believe



    is what you were trying to convey.

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    Why do people spoiler large images, decent browsers don't break 'tables'. Sometimes it's even smaller than other pictures in the same post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maguspk View Post
    Why do people spoiler large images, decent browsers don't break 'tables'. Sometimes it's even smaller than other pictures in the same post.
    Because table breaking is a popular myth that I'm inclined to believe still exists for someone. That someone would be an inferior human being but he might also be a mod. Eh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maguspk View Post
    Why do people spoiler large images, decent browsers don't break 'tables'. Sometimes it's even smaller than other pictures in the same post.
    who isn't using 1920/2560 desktop these days pfft

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orden View Post
    Because table breaking is a popular myth that I'm inclined to believe still exists for someone. That someone would be an inferior human being but he might also be a mod. Eh.
    What is this table breaking? And how does one break anothers table via the internet?

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