Mayweather / Ortiz setting boxing back 25 years.

[Reality]

Sorry, Mayweather is a bitch who threw not one but 2 sucker punches to KO Ortiz, even though he was winning the fight.

Ortiz threw a suckerpunch immediately after he threw the headbutt in the 4th round, watch it closely. Right when his headbutt nails floyd in the mouth, Floyd looks at the referee and Ortiz tries throwing a left hand over the top, but Floyd rolls with it

This victimization of Ortiz is making me sick

[Demosthenes11]

everytime someone has said pac is too small to go up, he goes up and knocks the guy the fuck out. Mayweather is really weak in the first few rounds, so I would expect a pac/floyd fight to have pac throwing a million punches in the first 4-5 rounds.

[Andalusian girls]

Do you guys think Mayweather would give up during the fight with Pac? I could see him getting knocked down and very frustrated, not sure if he would get knocked out though. He was taking/avoiding Ortiz's shots like they were a joke. I don't see Mayweather knocking down or finishing Pac at all, just trying to score.

Watch the first Castillo fight and see Mayweather get battered around the ring and tear a rotator cuff but still stand toe-to-toe with a man 10 pounds larger and hold his ground with one arm. He's not going to fold just because he encounters resistance, he hasn't dug deep in a long time but Castillo proved he can.

[tyven]

setting arbitrary rules basically after the fight was agreed to, then not talking at all about the fight for over a year while aurum+pac kept saying they want it to happen and then even agreed to further terms of the fight that mayweather demanded = ducking. big time. mayweather has been a punk bitch for years deejay. seriously. look over his shit. he went from jesus freak to hoodrat in about 2 days and never looked back

arbitrary rules? come on bro, if manny doesnt take roids then he shouldnt have to fear olympic style testing. testing that is enforced in ALL of floyds fights

but oh wait, he needs 24 days to recover from a blood test, unlike the rest of the world, some superior athlete

[Xno Kappa]

Theres no place for hugging in boxing. Get over it haters.

Not a hater at all. More mad at Ortiz's dumb overly apologetic ass and Cortez who had a major brain fart and not maintaining control of the fight. What PBF was a bitch move, but it was legal.

[aurik]

Ortiz threw a suckerpunch immediately after he threw the headbutt in the 4th round, watch it closely. Right when his headbutt nails floyd in the mouth, Floyd looks at the referee and Ortiz tries throwing a left hand over the top, but Floyd rolls with it

This victimization of Ortiz is making me sick

And this makes Mayweather's suckerpunches ok! Nice logic.

They weren't walking down the street, they were in a boxing ring - where all you do is throw punches. If you aren't expecting a punch, while standing in a boxing ring, you're a bad boxer.

HOW DARE HE PUNCH GUYS IN A BOXING RING!

Suckerpunch is a suckerpunch. You can blame Ortiz for not realizing time was in, you can blame the ref for not clearly establishing time was in (and ffs not even watching the fight), but it was a suckerpunch clear and simple.

[archibaldcrane]

I'd say the guy who is afraid of a quarter-ounce blood draw is the bitch, amirite?

[Deejay]

said the black guy. floyd ONLY has black fans and they only like him cuz he is black. if he were white or you were white you would understand

thats why we love him. white people love to hate on them ghetto niggas. it's really hard not to root for him out of spite.

[archibaldcrane]

Suckerpunch is a suckerpunch. You can blame Ortiz for not realizing time was in, you can blame the ref for not clearly establishing time was in (and ffs not even watching the fight), but it was a suckerpunch clear and simple.

Who gives a fuck? It's not Mayweather's responsibility to make sure Ortiz isn't terrible at boxing. There's millions of dollars on the line, if that isn't enough for Ortiz to pay fucking attention, he deserves to get knocked out, headbutt or no.

[Hitoshura]

Watch the first Castillo fight and see Mayweather get battered around the ring and tear a rotator cuff but still stand toe-to-toe with a man 10 pounds larger and hold his ground with one arm. He's not going to fold just because he encounters resistance, he hasn't dug deep in a long time but Castillo proved he can.

That's cool and all but PBF potentially getting knockdown repeatedly is a different story. Like I said though.. I don't see him knocking down Pac at all.

[Reality]

everytime someone has said pac is too small to go up, he goes up and knocks the guy the fuck out. Mayweather is really weak in the first few rounds, so I would expect a pac/floyd fight to have pac throwing a million punches in the first 4-5 rounds.

Pacquiao has to close the gap in order for his punches to land, he has a significant reach disadvantage to Floyd (Floyd's arm length is enormous for 147, if you don't believe me, look it up). Floyd picks guys apart who are smaller than him and have a shorter reach than he does

Please explain to me how lunging in throwing combinations at Floyd when he's at range to tag you, and you are out of range to tag him. Please someone break this down, analyze this. Because it can't be done without you going herpderp

[aurik]

Who gives a fuck? It's not Mayweather's responsibility to make sure Ortiz isn't terrible at boxing. There's millions of dollars on the line, if that isn't enough for Ortiz to pay fucking attention, he deserves to get knocked out, headbutt or no.

Sure, but it's still Mayweather throwing suckerpunches in a fight he is winning. AKA, a bitch move.

[Deejay]

everytime someone has said pac is too small to go up, he goes up and knocks the guy the fuck out. Mayweather is really weak in the first few rounds, so I would expect a pac/floyd fight to have pac throwing a million punches in the first 4-5 rounds.

and then wears himself out and looks like goo for the final 7 while floyd beauty pageants it up

[aurik]

Pacquiao has to close the gap in order for his punches to land, he has a significant reach disadvantage to Floyd (Floyd's arm length is enormous for 147, if you don't believe me, look it up). Floyd picks guys apart who are smaller than him and have a shorter reach than he does

Please explain to me how lunging in throwing combinations at Floyd when he's at range to tag you, and you are out of range to tag him. Please someone break this down, analyze this. Because it can't be done without you going herpderp

How about you stop crying about who is hypothetically better and ask your daddy to stop ducking the fight so we can find out for real.

[Demosthenes11]

arbitrary rules? come on bro, if manny doesnt take roids then he shouldnt have to fear olympic style testing. testing that is enforced in ALL of floyds fights

but oh wait, he needs 24 days to recover from a blood test, unlike the rest of the world, some superior athlete

It's not the standard for boxing. Why isn't the standard 24 hours? Does the rest of boxing just not care about doping? Pac has agreed to 48 hours before, and he has a good point. He is already many pounds above his natural build, which really could put him at risk for fatigue after drawing blood. Why would 24 hours be needed above 48?

It was more about rules being set to make manny jump through hoops - a pride thing. Why should floyd get to set the rules, and make pac do things to his liking?

[Chun Liroy]

How about you stop crying about who is hypothetically better and ask your daddy to stop ducking the fight so we can find out for real.

Dumb boxing fan. Or illiterate. Pretty sure he said he doesn't like mayweather.

[Reality]

Sure, but it's still Mayweather throwing suckerpunches in a fight he is winning. AKA, a bitch move.

I'm trying to figure this out

People supporting Ortiz either say Floyd suckerpunched him (even though time was in, Ortiz wasn't paying attention, Floyd had his guard up), or it was a legal shot but Floyd shouldn't have done it "because he was winning the fight anyways"

The way I look at it, and I try to put myself in Floyd's shoes, I just got my motherfucking lip busted open by this child who was fighting dirty from RD1 all the way to RD4. Referee warned him once in RD3 about the rushing in with the head, but if you check youtube, and the first video I posted on page 2, Ortiz did this shit for the entire fight. Floyd didn't complain, he didn't bitch to Cortez until the 4th time. By the 4th time, now see.. you injured me, now my lip is fucking broken open and anybody who knows Boxing knows that a cut can open up, get worse and seriously affect the outcome of a fight

Ortiz and his camp planned for this shit coming in, nobody can tell me different, their plan was to bust floyd open and work on the cut, hoping for a stoppage on cuts.

Floyd is a smart fucking fighter, and he's street, dont get that twisted. He's rich as a motherfucker but he's street as shit. As much as you hate him, and I'm a Sox fan and I can't stand the dude's attitude but Floyd is like the AJ Pierzynski of boxing. Love him or hate him, he will take advantage of any rule, period. And if Floyd had ended the fight that way and Ortiz hadn't been pulling this shit since the start of the fight, I wouldn't have agreed with it at all

Point I'm making, I don't think Floyd did anything wrong because I believe he was in his rights to retaliate, because Ortiz brought a punk street move to a boxing match and Floyd ended it with a punk street move

[Deejay]

It's not the standard for boxing. Why isn't the standard 24 hours? Does the rest of boxing just not care about doping? Pac has agreed to 48 hours before, and he has a good point. He is already many pounds above his natural build, which really could put him at risk for fatigue after drawing blood. Why would 24 hours be needed above 48?

It was more about rules being set to make manny jump through hoops - a pride thing. Why should floyd get to set the rules, and make pac do things to his liking?

Pride or not, how does manny saying no = floyd ducking

[tyven]

I'd say the guy who is afraid of a quarter-ounce blood draw is the bitch, amirite?

come on bro, its completely needless. no way the guy in his 30s that throws on POUNDS of muscle every year could ever possibly cheat, the civil wars in his country stop when he fights, he parts his hair, his smile is so cute. he is pure and clean and the fact that he is superstitious about blood loss should completely negate any style of testing another fighter might want.

[archibaldcrane]

Why should floyd get to set the rules, and make pac do things to his liking?

Well, Floyd is the one with the 0.