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    Quote Originally Posted by tyven View Post
    romo > rivers. im not even kidding.
    I don't rate QBs in the second tier as highly as others do. I think Rapistberger is terribad, but right above Ryan who is right above Eli, who is right above flacco.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyche View Post
    Barkley looks much less of a system guy than Lienart ever was, and he's started since he was a freshman at a football powerhouse. There's something to be said about that. Seems like a good kid and has stayed in school and at USC despite a coaching change and sanctions. I'll happily take Barkley.
    I get a distinct Jimmy Clausen vibe from Barkley. Former top overall prospect, golden boy mystique, plays well despite team failures at historic program, ran pro-style offense... I dunno maybe I'm way off base but I think Barkley will either fall in the draft or be a bust, or both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bregor View Post
    I get a distinct Jimmy Clausen vibe from Barkley. Former top overall prospect, golden boy mystique, plays well despite team failures at historic program, ran pro-style offense... I dunno maybe I'm way off base but I think Barkley will either fall in the draft or be a bust, or both.
    I see it that way too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moss View Post
    I don't consider Ryan better than Big Ben, but how can you say Rivers is definitively better than Ryan?
    Because he's thrown for 4000 yards and 25+ TDs in like 5 straight seasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archibaldcrane View Post
    Because he's thrown for 4000 yards and 25+ TDs in like 5 straight seasons.
    in an offense that is polar opposite to the Falcons'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moss View Post
    in an offense that is polar opposite to the Falcons'
    Because they have a QB that can strive in an offense like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moss View Post
    in an offense that is polar opposite to the Falcons'
    Bengals of the NFC.

    You even hired BRATKOWSKI.

    Matt Ryan is awful now.

    Enjoy his regression.

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    I'm pretty sure there was character concerns and work ethic issues before the draft with Clausen (not to mention he was a, what, 4th round prospect). Almost as if he felt entitled. I've never seen anything like that reported on Barkley. I really don't see the Clausen comparison at all. By all accounts he works hard, plays well, and he's started more than a single season....the anti-sanchez and anti-leinart. Most NFL evaluators want their QBs to play in a pro style offense, why would that be used to downgrade him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Akiyama View Post
    Because they have a QB that can strive in an offense like that.
    thrive*?

    And how do we know Ryan can't thrive in an offense like that? He has had uber-conservative Mike Smith as his HC and Mularkey as his OC every year in the NFL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Headspace View Post
    Bengals of the NFC.

    You even hired BRATKOWSKI.

    Matt Ryan is awful now.

    Enjoy his regression.
    gdi heady

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    Where are all the felons on the falcons?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyche View Post
    I'm pretty sure there was character concerns and work ethic issues before the draft with Clausen (not to mention he was a, what, 4th round prospect). Almost as if he felt entitled. I've never seen anything like that reported on Barkley. By all accounts he works hard, plays well, and he's started more than a single season. I just don't see the Clausen comparison at all. Most NFL evaluators want their QBs to play in a pro style offense, why would that be used to downgrade him?
    Kiper had Clausen #3 on his board on draft day, lol. I also don't recall any negative stuff coming out about Clausen until after the college season ended, and the interviews, pro days, Wonderlic, etc. started.

    More to the point, fuck Matt Barkley. OSWEILER.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moss View Post
    thrive*?

    And how do we know Ryan can't thrive in an offense like that? He has had uber-conservative Mike Smith as his HC and Mularkey as his OC every year in the NFL.
    Yeah, thrive. My bad. Don't know why I went with strive.. lol

    and who knows. but with the weapons that Ryan has right now.. the offense still finds ways to struggle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Akiyama View Post
    Yeah, thrive. My bad. Don't know why I went with strive.. lol

    and who knows. but with the weapons that Ryan has right now.. the offense still finds ways to struggle.
    the offensive line is more important than any "weapons," and our offensive line has been terrible. the offense has still been good in 2 games, bad in 2 others

    also I hope you aren't counting Michael Turner as a weapon

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flarega View Post
    Where are all the felons on the falcons?
    Playing for the Hawks

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    Oh I thought they were playing in europe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moss View Post
    the offensive line is more important than any "weapons," and our offensive line has been terrible. the offense has still been good in 2 games, bad in 2 others

    also I hope you aren't counting Michael Turner as a weapon
    Cowboys offensive line was pretty bad and kitna pwned some niggas.

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    Baltimore's defense (three TDs) scored more points than 12 NFL teams in Week 4. (Walker)
    I did not know this. lolol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bregor View Post
    Kiper had Clausen #3 on his board on draft day, lol. I also don't recall any negative stuff coming out about Clausen until after the college season ended, and the interviews, pro days, Wonderlic, etc. started.

    More to the point, fuck Matt Barkley. OSWEILER.
    I remember Clausen getting into a fight or punched in the face or some shit in college, and shit started to leak then that he wasn't exactly the best person in the world. And Kiper...that requires no comment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silentleroy View Post
    I did not know this. lolol
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