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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyche View Post
    Cam still has a lot to do. I read or heard somewhere that over 70% of the snaps are taken from shotgun. In which case, he'll forever be a great fantasy QB on a losing team. I looked for his "under center" stats, but came up empty. 1st round QB busts aren't really that big of a deal anymore though, you don't lose $60 million signing them,
    But you waste the selection and the time invested. 1st round QB busts are still the most costly, even if it's not monetary.

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    You won't lose as much time or money, however. The only reason Russell was given the starter job for so many games was because he was paid so much. Teams won't be so handcuffed to give them an extended chance with little investment. For example, if Newton was complete trash and a headcase, Carolina would have no problem dumping him next season, whereas before, he probably would have hung around for two or three more years. If the Vikings get the #1 pick, you think they aren't taking Luck?

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    McNabb is good bro, no need for Luck.

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    luck is going # 1 no matter what team is in last place, if it happens to be STL who wouldn't want a QB they'll prolly just trade #1 for #2 or some shit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tweek View Post
    luck is going # 1 no matter what team is in last place, if it happens to be STL who wouldn't want a QB they'll prolly just trade #1 for #2 or some shit
    I've thought about this, and there's going to be a lot of gamesmanship at play if something like this happens. If St. Louis is #1 and Miami is #2, why would Miami trade them? They can call the Rams bluff and see if they'd actually pull the trigger. It could get really fucking interesting if you had the Rams and Colts with the first 2 picks, and a team like Miami or Seattle in the 3 spot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyche View Post
    I've thought about this, and there's going to be a lot of gamesmanship at play if something like this happens. If St. Louis is #1 and Miami is #2, why would Miami trade them? They can call the Rams bluff and see if they'd actually pull the trigger. It could get really fucking interesting if you had the Rams and Colts with the first 2 picks, and a team like Miami or Seattle in the 3 spot.
    Miami would have to trade them because the Rams could trade it to another team way down the line. There really is no bluff involved since picks aren't restricted to the point where you can only trade up or down one spot. So Miami would have to make an offer or see Luck fall to someone below them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valisk View Post
    Miami would have to trade them because the Rams could trade it to another team way down the line. There really is no bluff involved since picks aren't restricted to the point where you can only trade up or down one spot. So Miami would have to make an offer or see Luck fall to someone below them.
    yep, if he doesn't go #1 someone dun fuckin' goof'd

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyche View Post
    Cam still has a lot to do. I read or heard somewhere that over 70% of the snaps are taken from shotgun.
    That doesn't sound right at all. I think it might be skewed a bit too due to late game drives where it's an obvious pass situation. Come to think of it, we've had possession during the last 1:30 or so of almost every single half this year.

    Could be wrong, so I'd like to see a breakdown of it. From memory though the majority have been under center unless it was 2min drill.

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    for discussion's sake

    "In 114 passing attempts from the shotgun formation, Newton has just three touchdowns versus four interceptions and five sacks. That's ironic because his 114 attempts from the shotgun are second in the league (Stafford), and those attempts have resulted in 921 of his 1,386 passing yards." -some fantasy stat nerd on espn

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    WILFORK ISLAND BABY


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    oh, and btw, benjarvus green-ellis has never fumbled the football in his life.

    seriously, look it up. Stats exist for college and pros - not one fumble. Rumor is, never in HS as well

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    Hes never been an efficient runner either.

    seriously, look it up

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    Averages more than 4 YPC, never fumbles, and is a very reliable goal-line back. I call that efficient bro

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    well congratulations, he will probably fumble in his next game now

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    I said never fumbles bro. never

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    but you jinxed him

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    NEVER

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demosthenes11 View Post
    NEVER
    If he fumbles against the Jets, it's your fault.

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    If who fumbles?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleverness View Post
    If he fumbles against the Jets, it's your fault.
    lol, would be epic at this point

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