Tanaka Rage!

[noodles355]

Yeah, and all I'm reading is people crying about voidwatch and empy95 upgrades, and stating that Tanaka returned as Director. Concidering the cost of Empy95 is something the dev team said they were going to do (Balancing out the time/effort to complete empy/relic/mythic to 99), you've got one event (one and a half if you concider shit scroll drops from WoE - WoE mats are fine). Then there's the whole he's returning as director thing - he was never director, and as far as I can see, he never left as producer throughout abyssea. That is what I take issue with, if someone can show me some actual proof of him leaving the team as producer during abyssea then recently returning, then that's all good. But no one has, and they keep mistakenly citing the director change of Matsui > Itto.

I don't care about the new direction of FFXI. If someone can show me when Tanaka stepped down as producer and was reintated as producer, then that's all well and good, continue on your merry way. But it seems like you're just using him as a scapegoat and as some reasoning to have a little cry.

[Lordender]

Yeah, and all I'm reading is people crying about voidwatch and empy95 upgrades, and stating that Tanaka returned as Director. Concidering the cost of Empy95 is something the dev team said they were going to do (Balancing out the time/effort to complete empy/relic/mythic to 99), you've got one event (one and a half if you concider shit scroll drops from WoE - WoE mats are fine). Then there's the whole he's returning as director thing - he was never director, and as far as I can see, he never left as producer throughout abyssea. That is what I take issue with, if someone can show me some actual proof of him leaving the team as producer during abyssea then recently returning, then that's all good. But no one has, and they keep mistakenly citing the director change of Matsui > Itto.

I don't care about the new direction of FFXI. If someone can show me when Tanaka stepped down as producer and was reintated as producer, then that's all well and good, continue on your merry way. But it seems like you're just using him as a scapegoat and as some reasoning to have a little cry.

Dunno where you came from but you need to gtfo, you must be new around here because the fail of Tanaka has been well documented on these forums for years. I wouldn't say people are crying, I would say people don't like how unbalanced the shit is and how it makes no sense going from what it was to 1500 plates. Abyssea goes against all of Tanaka's methods, maybe he never "officially" stepped down but you can tell by the quality of the content over the past two updates that he wasent calling the shots until recently again.

I don't think anyone would of had a problem with a BALANCED method of upgrading from 90-95 when you factor in that most people if not all empy owners lowmanned their weapons and now you force them to have to go find bigger LS's or pug's that don't blow ass to cap lights and hope for plates to drop.

[Deader2818]

Tanaka was always producer of the game. Its debatable if the "he just didnt focus on XI while he was producing XIV" is actually true because there really is no way to prove it.

[aionls]

I don't think anyone would of had a problem with a BALANCED method of upgrading from 90-95 when you factor in that most people if not all empy owners lowmanned their weapons and now you force them to have to go find bigger LS's or pug's that don't blow ass to cap lights and hope for plates to drop.

Boo fucking hoo, shut the fuck up.

[Kalasin]

Or you get a decent LS rather than a big LS. Unless you call 12 people a big Linkshell already(which I would have a few months ago, but don't now) there is still no content that NEEDS a big Linkshell. Stop sucking and learn how to play.

[noodles355]

I wouldn't say people are crying,

most people if not all empy owners lowmanned their weapons and now you force them to have to go find bigger LS's or pug's that don't blow ass to cap lights and hope for plates to drop.

You see what I read there was "I'm not crying" then "Boo hoo I can't lowman my 95 empy."

And why are you blaming the empyreal trial on Tanaka? The dev team said that they wanted to balance out the empyrean, relic and mythic weapons so that by 99 they would be comparable in effort to obtain. I don't know where you got the idea that Empyreans were going to be just as easy to get all the way to 99 and then suddenly Tanaka comes in and changes that. They were always going to balance it to make them more equal in terms of effort/time to achieve.

As Jornna states, you can't prove how much involvement Tanaka had with abyssea. You can cry about how it's not his style all you like, but that's not any actual proof. Unless you can actually prove that it's anything to do with Tanaka "not focusing on FFXI as much, letting the dev team do what they want", then you have no grounds for your argument.

Also "Dunno where you came from but you need to gtfo" lol. What, you can't take that someone's calling you out for 1) crying and 2) trying to pin the blame solely on one person without any actual proof? Dry your eyes and man up.

[NynJa]

RE: WoE.
I'd forgotten about the scroll drops in WoE to be honest, they are terribad. I'd just focused on the Dice drop, which is decent and they're bazaarable, and the coin drop rate, which is very good.

Unless you're doing Conflux 7, the coin drop rate is fucking garbage too. I've yet to see a pouch from any of the new confluxes in about 50 runs on 3 characters, 11 included, and my coin drop rate is hardly stellar (sometimes going 6 treasure chests worth of loot and seeing 0 coins).

[Byrthnoth]

He who must not be named has struck again. Watch out Impetus, you're probably next on the menu!

[NynJa]

So instead of 12k Ukko's, War's will only be able to do 8k. meh

[Churchill]

They've made a JA that was nice when you could use it not really worth delaying your attacks by 2s.

[dasva]

I don't mind balancing but this isn't that. This stage is significantly more costly than initial relic stage. While previous stages are much much much more time consuming (and possibly costly) than subsequent relic stages.

The closest this comes to balancing is now the relic owners that had to listen to home much easier/faster it was to get relics from the empyrean users will now be the ones say neener neener neener mines waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay easier

[DNAval]

Thanks, I'm glad I got such an insightful response to my question that you bolded. If I might be so rude to ask, care to enlighten me on when he stepped down as producer, when he was re-instated and who was producer whilst he was away? I'd also be interested to know why you think he is/was a director? Or was that a typo and you always meant producer? But then as I say: When was this producer change?

Give me a good enough reason to get on the Tanaka-is-the-devil bandwagon and I shall. So far it's just people crying over Empy95 upgrades and Voidwatch, and wrongly stating Tanaka was reinstated as director, which just isn't true. This whole crusade looks to be built on tears and misinformation.

RE: WoE.
I'd forgotten about the scroll drops in WoE to be honest, they are terribad. I'd just focused on the Dice drop, which is decent and they're bazaarable, and the coin drop rate, which is very good.

No....
and did you sleep thru all the HNM scene? Did you avoid it all together?, like did you and your buddies only do nyzul for bodies and heads thru all that time?

We are not asking you to join our bandwagon, we don't need to explain why we dislike him so much, fact is 95 empys is only about 5% of why I dislike him simply because I don't care much for having the #1 weapon out there.

[Darkmagi]

He who must not be named has struck again. Watch out Impetus, you're probably next on the menu!

Oh god don't give them ideas.

[NynJa]

Oh god don't give them ideas.

I'm pretty sure it was the 10-12k ukko's flying around that gave them ideas...JUUUUUST SAYIN.

[Darkmagi]

Smite can do just as high, just not as frequently. lol

[ronin sparthos]

You see what I read there was "I'm not crying" then "Boo hoo I can't lowman my 95 empy."

And why are you blaming the empyreal trial on Tanaka? The dev team said that they wanted to balance out the empyrean, relic and mythic weapons so that by 99 they would be comparable in effort to obtain. I don't know where you got the idea that Empyreans were going to be just as easy to get all the way to 99 and then suddenly Tanaka comes in and changes that. They were always going to balance it to make them more equal in terms of effort/time to achieve.

As Jornna states, you can't prove how much involvement Tanaka had with abyssea. You can cry about how it's not his style all you like, but that's not any actual proof. Unless you can actually prove that it's anything to do with Tanaka "not focusing on FFXI as much, letting the dev team do what they want", then you have no grounds for your argument.

Also "Dunno where you came from but you need to gtfo" lol. What, you can't take that someone's calling you out for 1) crying and 2) trying to pin the blame solely on one person without any actual proof? Dry your eyes and man up.

The current state of Empyreans is deplorable, regardless if Tanaka pulled the trigger on that decision or not. Tanaka just gets assigned blame because he's the mouthpiece who has always decried the playerbase. He did it with XI for years and he did it in the beta phase of XIV until they yanked him off the project.

A 1500 plate requirement from monsters dropping at a less than 100% rate smells of Tanaka's mindset. If it turns out to be some unknown developer that made the call then the fault still lies with Tanaka because he is the acting manager of the operation and could have easily told the unknown grunt that this method is bullshit and should be adjusted. Something tells me Tanaka hasn't had a change of heart since the XIV fiasco though.

While he may be a great guy off the clock, within the identity of a gaming director he enjoys nothing less than torturing the base with what he considers "ideal" gaming and loathes any attempts at compromise with his clients.

Most knew that SE would level off the Empyreans but what wasn't expected is a Heavy Metal droprate that would make the old Dynamis-Xarcabard AF rates look good done for no other reason other than to placate some asshurt Relic wielders who are getting continuous buffs to their weapons anyway. Yes, Emps needed to be leveled off but inserting a 1500 item cockblock just for the sake of it is textbook Tanaka. All such a trial does is drive people back towards the throatcutting, backstabbing, indentured servitude of previous years.

Did I mention that most people won't be beating the T3 Voidwatch battles with enough frequency such to create a stable economy anytime soon?

Intense demand with non-existant supply... ah Tanaka economics I miss thee.

[NynJa]

other than to placate some asshurt Relic wielders who are getting continuous buffs to their weapons anyway.

Oh yeah, beause "Deilver 2000 WS killshots for DMG+3 Attack+5" really coincided with "deliver 50 Ulhuadshi Fangs"

[Colenzo]

Oh yeah, beause "Deilver 2000 WS killshots for DMG+3 Attack+5" really coincided with "deliver 50 Ulhuadshi Fangs"

Because relics and empyreans are completely the same difficulty to upgrade in the first place, yeah makes sense. Yeah, I see where you are coming from.

[NynJa]

You're telling me relics are easier than emps, in both time and difficulty (difficulty being a basis of material aquisition)

of course, they did nerf the WS trials...after every fucking relic holder allready did them.

[DNAval]

You're telling me relics are easier than emps, in both time and difficulty (difficulty being a basis of material aquisition)

of course, they did nerf the WS trials...after every fucking relic holder allready did them.

I think he means getting them to 95, in which case its true in the current state.