Tanaka Rage!

[Kalasin]

Finding buyers for anything at this point really isn't hard.. I even have a buyer who wants to buy VNM kills right now(Yes, the VNM for Emp trials before you turn in items).

[Darkmagi]

I had a buyer who wanted to pay me to do fucking black triple stars for them.

[Fievel]

I had a buyer who wanted to pay me to do fucking black triple stars for them.

lol, not surprised in the least, but still funny.

[dasva]

I did 50glav/50chlor in 5 days, about 8~10 hours per day. Usually just cleaving on 3 characters, often had 1-2 extra people holding KI, rarely had 6-7 people total.

Also, I have 3 ebisus, and if I try hard enough, I can maybe make 1.5mil ish a day? I'm too lazy, though.

By 50 you mean 50 pops or what it took to get 50 drops? Either way impressive good sir.

What are you fishing that you get only 500k a day per character? And how can you be lazy when you cleaved for 8-10 hours a day lol. Or is it more like too lazy to fish much AFTER doing all that? Cause yeah after a day of that I just call it a day fuck fishing

[dasva]

Finding buyers for anything at this point really isn't hard.. I even have a buyer who wants to buy VNM kills right now(Yes, the VNM for Emp trials before you turn in items).

Seriously lol? How much they offer? I mean I know people will buy all kinds of silly things but wow

[Churchill]

Atma, Seals, +2 items, Emp items, Gear, Missions, Trials (Emp weapon+staves etc) have all been sold lol.

[Julian]

By 50 you mean 50 pops or what it took to get 50 drops? Either way impressive good sir.

What are you fishing that you get only 500k a day per character? And how can you be lazy when you cleaved for 8-10 hours a day lol. Or is it more like too lazy to fish much AFTER doing all that? Cause yeah after a day of that I just call it a day fuck fishing

50 items, finished my ukon/vereth 80's. And that was over the summer.

School now, so I barely even log in. And when I do log in, I don't wanna spend the entire time fishing, hence, lazy. And when I do fish, it's usually on 2 characters. I... should probably fish bot? I guess. >_> I care too much about my account, though.

[Darkmagi]

Really no risk in fish botting unless you do it while afk, just turn a bot on and go do something else within proximity of your pc.

[Kalasin]

Seriously lol? How much they offer? I mean I know people will buy all kinds of silly things but wow

Offering 100k each kill, isn't as much as I get selling Emp items but it's less work as well if you have a T2 and all T3 abyssites, and it's something for those times you sit in Jeuno looking at shouts only so lol.

[macross]

Still faster to make 95 relic start to finish, than 95 empy start to finish.

[dasva]

Really no risk in fish botting unless you do it while afk, just turn a bot on and go do something else within proximity of your pc.

Yeah it's the people that afk that get caught. Especially the really really dumb ones. Like start fishing pull up a monster on the very first cast (why they even realing up monsters is beyond me) continue to keep casting while being attacked die like 10 min later then get a R3 from a fairy.... and just lay there till they auto home point. I mean that's just asking me to report you...

Also I found out GMs aren't the brightest. It doesn't matter if you are right next to the guy they are checking they will warp out then warp to you to get to you lol. But yeah I got hit with zone wide searches by a GM 2 sundays in a row... I miss the old days of afkish fishing WITHOUT a bot though.

[DNAval]

Your comparing a several characters several hours a day to a single character 2 hours a day... so let's put it at 4 characters all of them giving coins to one person than bam that's more like 800 a day. So about 19 days only 2 hours a day and you made relic. Oh that's a little longer than your weak and a half for kanagi but did you even come close to averaging 2 hours a day doing it or less?

Dude you are seriously getting more stupid every post you make and it seems your reading skills keep dropping as well, i said 1 character and his whm mule.... But now your talking about (let me quote you) 4 Characters all of them giving coins to one person. , you keep trying to validate your point but you have none just stop posting, it is not faster to make a relic than an empy for the average person.

You also trying to point out how easy it is to make gil and a buddy of yours mercs 15-20 mill a day, please tell us what he mercs or how you can make many more millions if you actually tried.... But then your going to tell us that you can't tell us or everyone would start doing it, but that's the point I've been trying to make since this whole thing started, your average person can't do it, as opposed to everyone being able to make an empy in 3 weeks with a main and a mule.

So let's recap................. you failed to prove your point.

[macross]

Also don't forget the countless hours you're spending doing the long spawning NM's to make the base kannagi as well. Add up those total hours vs the 2hours a day farming currency, and the money you spend buying pops for the 90 kannagi, and relic just looks more and more attractive.

1 man and his mule isn't gonna be making an empy in 3 weeks all by themselves, unless you farm some shit easy one like a masa. In any case it will be stuck at 90 forever, when people will have far superior lvl 99 relics.

[DNAval]

Also don't forget the countless hours you're spending doing the long spawning NM's to make the base kannagi as well. Add up those total hours vs the 2hours a day farming currency, and the money you spend buying pops for the 90 kannagi, and relic just looks more and more attractive.

1 man and his mule isn't gonna be making an empy in 3 weeks all by themselves, unless you farm some shit easy one like a masa. In any case it will be stuck at 90 forever, when people will have far superior lvl 99 relics.

According to Dasva if your sleeping or watching a moving those hours don't count, and they can be done in 3 days tops ( completely afk ).
1 man and his mule can make a kannagi in 3 weeks, a tarutaru JP solo'd nin/dnc his kannagi to 85 in 2 weeks.

maybe relics will be superior than empys @ 99 but even then i bet a 90 empy will be able to keep up in numbers with a 99 relic.

[Kalasin]

maybe relics will be superior than empys @ 99 but even then i bet a 90 empy will be able to keep up in numbers with a 99 relic.

I doubt it, at least for most.

[Sho]

...because ppl are lining up to buy glavoid shells rofl

Why just stop? What kinda backwater scrubshit server r u on? Ppl were paying 500k for shells at 80 cap, and youre saying its common at 95? R o f fucking l

Kinda funny that you said this. Before the merge with you guys people were paying up to 1.5 mil per shell on Carbuncle. This was during 85 cap. JP still buy them, albeit not at crazy amounts.

Some just want to throw money at everything. It's their own prerogative.

[DNAval]

I doubt it, at least for most.

well you have to admit that the possibility exist that we'll see something like this at 99

99 Mandau = 30.64%
90 twashtar = 27.88%

[dasva]

Dude you are seriously getting more stupid every post you make and it seems your reading skills keep dropping as well, i said 1 character and his whm mule....

I'm done arguing about this, unless you can show me a way to make a Relic in 1.5 weeks with 2 people each with a mule, like i can make a 90 kannagi there is no way I can validate that point.

Really now? My reading skills?

But now your talking about (let me quote you) 4 Characters all of them giving coins to one person. , you keep trying to validate your point but you have none just stop posting, it is not faster to make a relic than an empy for the average person.

It's funny you say stop posting and later you ask a question.

You also trying to point out how easy it is to make gil and a buddy of yours mercs 15-20 mill a day, please tell us what he mercs or how you can make many more millions if you actually tried.... But then your going to tell us that you can't tell us or everyone would start doing it, but that's the point I've been trying to make since this whole thing started, your average person can't do it, as opposed to everyone being able to make an empy in 3 weeks with a main and a mule.

So let's recap................. you failed to prove your point.

Have you not even read anyone elses posts? Like everything abyssea/empyrean related is being merc for stupid amounts of money. How can I make many more millions a day than I currently do now? Oh Idk all the things I already mentioned. But here's a simple one any idiot can do. Make a cruor pt. Bring your both your characters in. Rake in a good mil/hour from just the cruor. Doing dynamis is about as fast gil if you are good so there's that if you can't keep pts together that long. That's 150-180 hours with just main and a mule to farm the gil doing that which isn't the greatest but meh. Which means comes out to 8.5 hours a day to do in 3 weeks. Hell you don't even have to be at the comp most the time just let it rake in. How many hours a day were you spending to get an empy to 90 farming all pops in 3 weeks? How much luck did that involve compared to others? I mean someone just posted just getting to the 80 stage took around 45 hours with 3-7 lets say average of 5 characters.

Of course you could sell all the extra stuff from those emps you farmed too. Most +2 stuff goes for 200k each and some of the drops go for decent so if you line up buyers you could make alot of money making that empyrean lol.

[Kalasin]

For some of the relics the 95 version beats the 90 version already(talking pure damage, not usefulness, cause most win there as it is now), so another enhancement likely won't be just 1-2%.

[dasva]

According to Dasva if your sleeping or watching a moving those hours don't count, and they can be done in 3 days tops ( completely afk ).
1 man and his mule can make a kannagi in 3 weeks, a tarutaru JP solo'd nin/dnc his kannagi to 85 in 2 weeks.

maybe relics will be superior than empys @ 99 but even then i bet a 90 empy will be able to keep up in numbers with a 99 relic.

Of course I don't count time when you aren't actually playing. I mean if I didn't you could say just getting to abyssea stage could take a hundred hours... but how long did I actually spend at the comp for kanagi? Idk 10 hours maybe and most of that was VNMs due to all the running and shit lol