Tanaka Rage!

[Deader2818]

If that is the case, you cant really count time camping the lotto NMs for empys since you can afk leech most of them just by joining a party before you go to bed and have who ever is there just kill them for you which puts it more in favor or empys being faster to make then relics.

[DNAval]

Of course I don't count time when you aren't actually playing. I mean if I didn't you could say just getting to abyssea stage could take a hundred hours... but how long did I actually spend at the comp for kanagi? Idk 10 hours maybe and most of that was VNMs due to all the running and shit lol

is that including the 8 hours for 6 sobeks? LMAO you fail dude... I'm done with you.

[NynJa]

Kinda funny that you said this. Before the merge with you guys people were paying up to 1.5 mil per shell on Carbuncle. This was during 85 cap. JP still buy them, albeit not at crazy amounts.

Some just want to throw money at everything. It's their own prerogative.

I guess I missed it, cuz in the past 3 or so months all I've seen in the WTB section is souls, and that has died down since.

Are you fucking retarded? 500k at 80 cap? No one even fucking cared about empyreans at 80.

Then this guys just blowing smoke?

back during 80 cap, when there were no stats to the empy weapons and i was foaming at the mouth because i couldn't get anyone to go through the trouble of chloris, a friend of mine in an HNMLS let me know his crew would be happy to sell me chloris buds at 500k each. i politely thanked him, but refused.

People knew they were going to become something when a lv80 ukon (109/482) was slightly inferior to a lv80 bravura (111/488/acc+25), just with a LOT less work*. Just no one knew HOW powerful they were going to be, it looked like a long road to upgrade, untill umekiyo finished Masamune (gilgamesh player btw) and people saw the kinda numbers Fudo was putting out, and then interest jumped.

*before you go on your tirade, at this time the bravura trial was dynamis every 3 days with ~18 people pulling in an avg of 400 currency per run, then the upgrade trials were 1500/2000 killshots.


And now...for the "its easy to find buyers" crew:

search all > item > want to buy:
[20:00:44]Ashric (Lv95 Ninja / Lv47 Warrior):
[20:00:44]ï'Monkï( ï'waistï( ï'Itemï( ï'Can I have it?ï(
[20:00:44]1. Wyrm Beard 2. Behemoth Tongue
[20:00:44]ï'Rewardï( ï'You can have this.ï(
[20:00:46]Okiru (H@H@H):
[20:00:46]Buy) ï'Cursed Hauberk -1ï( ï'Sell?ï(
[20:00:46]ï'/tellï( ï'priceï( ï'pleaseï( ï'Thank you.ï(
[20:00:47]Ponnjiri (Lv95 Summoner / Lv47 White Mage):
[20:00:47]ï'Itzpapa. Scaleï(250k ï'Sell?ï(
[20:00:48]Raferu (Lv95 Ninja / Lv47 Warrior):
[20:00:48]“Á‘åb“÷ behe ki ï'Itemï(
[20:00:48]ï'Sell?ï( 1m
[20:00:48]0054
[20:00:49]Utuho (Lv95 Warrior / Lv47 Samurai):
[20:00:49]ï'Silver Mirrorï(ï'Sell?ï(
[20:00:49]50,000 @85
[20:00:50]Yhuka (Lv95 Black Mage / Lv47 White Mage):
[20:00:50]Buy)ï'O. Bronzepieceï(10,000gil
[20:00:50]ï'Sell?ï(
[20:00:50]‚æ‚낵‚©‚Á‚½‚çtell‚­‚¾

[Darkmagi]

I don't know one person who started upgraded empyreans til 85, not my fault your server sucks and has no one buying shit(or you just suck at selling things).

[NynJa]

Wouldnt that mean that my server DOESNT suck because our players actually PLAY the game instead of swiping daddies credit card at ige.com and just relying on buying r/e gear?

the only time I'd consider buying something like that is if I'm @1, because I feel that the gil spent justifies the potential time saved on cleaving up another pop, but even then I wouldnt pay more than 300k for a shell. If its something from a non-cleavable heroes NM, I'd pay 30k more than the cost of the pop items (cuz I can just buy them and do it myself cuz im not a scrub).

[dasva]

50 items, finished my ukon/vereth 80's. And that was over the summer.

School now, so I barely even log in. And when I do log in, I don't wanna spend the entire time fishing, hence, lazy. And when I do fish, it's usually on 2 characters. I... should probably fish bot? I guess. >_> I care too much about my account, though.

A tip idk if you noticed but the "secret" is out on Hakuryu so there are usually a few people going for them. Over here it's 25k lik 30k gugrusaurus. Get 15-20 lik per hour 10-15 gugrusaurus. Decent gil per hour for something that easy. Of course if you have time you'd want to do other stuff since there generally you are limiting by your buyers budget so wont be able to sell 200 a day to lol. Actually know one guy that has gil he just refuses to spend more than 500k a day. But since you aren't spending much time it should be fine for some quicker gil. That's where most mine is coming from right now since I'm working a bit. Fish up a whole bunch sell what I can feed the rest to my new account. Though now since it doesn't need them it's more like fish a whole bunch and hold onto them. Especially since a buyer just got his .

As far as the how long does it take to make an ebisu's is it within a normal persons reach... well I just got my last item for my 3rd rod. I made the account had to wait 14 days to start fishing then took about 3 days to get to 30 (gogo skillup ring lol) and starting turning fish in. Lets just say I still need 50k guild points to be able to turn them in because it's that fast if you have a supplier( and given how many ebisu are out there now and how much money its worth you'll find one). It ended up being around 2-3 weeks but 6 days of that I was out of town with comp off. My last one I think I got the items with 30k gp to go. Very sad that it is the guild points that are the limiting factor for me now. I mean my first one took months by itself... after I was already lvl 100 with all useful guild point items

There are enough people fishing in beaucedine that I've had a GM 2 weekends in a row while he was doing a zone wide sweep. As far as how much gil that will burn you to make... well depends. Often if you go directly to the seller (or in my case I go to buyer) they will sell for less since they are definitely selling and of course you can go 2/2 or 2/2000. But from what I've read and talking to my buyers and the 3 I've done it seems more like 400-500 total on average. So expect to drop 10-15 mil to get it. If it's less hurray. If it's more.... hope you aren't like that one guy that took like 1500 for each lol

[DNAval]

Wouldnt that mean that my server DOESNT suck because our players actually PLAY the game instead of swiping daddies credit card at ige.com and just relying on buying gear?

/nod I concur.

[Darkmagi]

Wouldnt that mean that my server DOESNT suck because our players actually PLAY the game instead of swiping daddies credit card at ige.com and just relying on buying gear?

idkbro, making 150mil in 3 weeks via buyers is pretty cool.

[NynJa]

hope you aren't like that one guy that took like 1500 for each lol

And thats why I stopped trying for ebisu...because of SE's stupid random generator. when I hit 0/268 gugs, I pretty much said fuck off.

[Fievel]

DNAval and dasva remind me of Atoreis and Arthars. When they argue it just ends up looking like two retards trying to prove to the other that they're smarter. Either way you both look fucking stupid, just shut up, nobody wants you here shitting up these threads.

[dasva]

And thats why I stopped trying for ebisu...because of SE's stupid random generator. when I hit 0/268 gugs, I pretty much said fuck off.

My first took 347 gugs but only 10 lik lol. But yeah I do agree random generator is crap. I mean shit like I've said before I've gotten a dozen of every other KI before I got just 1 of the one I needed to complete my set. Fucking like 0/100+ Kclub (but yeah I know someone that went 1/1 that bastard). I hear VW drops are super gay like that too. Wish they would stop that stuff. I liked stuff like einharjar or assault where you could buy with points

[Twixbars]

Whole lot of mad up in here.
Empyrean weapons as a whole is a complete joke compared to relics. Say what you like but I managed to knock out an emp per day to 85, and another day to get 90. Shit is super easy so stop trying to compare it to relics.

You will notice some people have nearly every empyrean out there in the span of a couple month...you do not see people with nearly every relic do you? There's a reason why and it's because they're harder to get. It's that simple. Have many of you done relic trials? By far the most boring thing in the game to do.

Sure gil isn't hard to make but it is very tedious and that sort of thing is what drives people to rage, such as yourselves raging over 1500 plates. Sure 1500 is quite a lot but, shut up and deal with it and be happy that your super, easy to obtain empyrean weapons outdo most relics by a very large margin for 1/20th of the effort.

[DNAval]

DNAval and dasva remind me of Atroies and Arthars. When they argue it just ends up looking like two retards trying to prove to the other that they're smarter. Either way you both look fucking stupid, just shut up, nobody wants you here shitting up these threads.

Nothing to contribute, your post is dumber than Dasva's, you just plain fail.

a big round of Shut The Fuck Up for you is in order ^_^

[Atoreis]

DNAval and dasva remind me of Atroies and Arthars. When they argue it just ends up looking like two retards trying to prove to the other that they're smarter. Either way you both look fucking stupid, just shut up, nobody wants you here shitting up these threads.

My nickname is seriously that hard to type? lols

[Fievel]

Nothing to contribute, your post is dumber than Dasva's, you just plain fail.

a big round of Shut The Fuck Up for you is in order ^_^

lol

[Fievel]

Fixed it for ya

[Deader2818]

I before E except after derp.

[dasva]

My nickname is seriously that hard to type? lols

Yes it is suka!!!

[Julian]

A tip idk if you noticed but the "secret" is out on Hakuryu so there are usually a few people going for them. Over here it's 25k lik 30k gugrusaurus. Get 15-20 lik per hour 10-15 gugrusaurus. Decent gil per hour for something that easy. Of course if you have time you'd want to do other stuff since there generally you are limiting by your buyers budget so wont be able to sell 200 a day to lol. Actually know one guy that has gil he just refuses to spend more than 500k a day. But since you aren't spending much time it should be fine for some quicker gil. That's where most mine is coming from right now since I'm working a bit. Fish up a whole bunch sell what I can feed the rest to my new account. Though now since it doesn't need them it's more like fish a whole bunch and hold onto them. Especially since a buyer just got his .

As far as the how long does it take to make an ebisu's is it within a normal persons reach... well I just got my last item for my 3rd rod. I made the account had to wait 14 days to start fishing then took about 3 days to get to 30 (gogo skillup ring lol) and starting turning fish in. Lets just say I still need 50k guild points to be able to turn them in because it's that fast if you have a supplier( and given how many ebisu are out there now and how much money its worth you'll find one). It ended up being around 2-3 weeks but 6 days of that I was out of town with comp off. My last one I think I got the items with 30k gp to go. Very sad that it is the guild points that are the limiting factor for me now. I mean my first one took months by itself... after I was already lvl 100 with all useful guild point items

There are enough people fishing in beaucedine that I've had a GM 2 weekends in a row while he was doing a zone wide sweep. As far as how much gil that will burn you to make... well depends. Often if you go directly to the seller (or in my case I go to buyer) they will sell for less since they are definitely selling and of course you can go 2/2 or 2/2000. But from what I've read and talking to my buyers and the 3 I've done it seems more like 400-500 total on average. So expect to drop 10-15 mil to get it. If it's less hurray. If it's more.... hope you aren't like that one guy that took like 1500 for each lol

Last I checked Liks were 15kish and Gugrus 20k here. Maybe a bit higher now, idk. It would probably be a decent idea to go back to them.

My main issue with fish botting, is that my main account has a warning on it from a long ass time ago (hnm drama stuff), and I am incredibly paranoid, and really don't wanna do anything that would risk it. And my other account used to belong to a friend, so getting that banned would be dickish. I guess I could do it on my bf's account? >_>

I don't really mind fishing when I'm just sitting here, watching a movie, waiting for a Lik or whatever to bite before I have to pay attention. But these days I'm so busy I'm hardly ever just sitting here watching a movie. And when I am here, if I'm online, I'd honestly rather be doing something else, lol.

(Also, I went 1/<100 on all items for my 3 characters, except that the last one took like 200-300ish gugrus. ;( Finished those 2 ebisus in a little under 2 weeks)

[Ayn]

I had a buyer who wanted to pay me to do fucking black triple stars for them.

I dunno man, haven't you seen Gundam? They fucked up shit pretty hardcore before Amuro stopped 'em.