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    From what I have been reading (and hearing testimony from his doctors), Steve Jobs didn't have the super-aggressive form of PC. There are like 4 forms of it, and only one of those is the big, scary, you're-gonna'-die one. I guess they can't disclose his medical records, but it's being said that he didn't have the more aggressive form, and that he fucking blew it by attempting to find "alternate" treatment to the common whipple surgery. He also blew it by diving headlong into his work instead of dealing with his illness, like he was trying to ignore it until it started really affecting his health, which is when it's a little too late and the treatments were not enough for the advances stages he let it get to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miokomioko View Post
    From what I have been reading (and hearing testimony from his doctors), Steve Jobs didn't have the super-aggressive form of PC. There are like 4 forms of it, and only one of those is the big, scary, you're-gonna'-die one. I guess they can't disclose his medical records, but it's being said that he didn't have the more aggressive form, and that he fucking blew it by attempting to find "alternate" treatment to the common whipple surgery. He also blew it by diving headlong into his work instead of dealing with his illness, like he was trying to ignore it until it started really affecting his health, which is when it's a little too late and the treatments were not enough for the advances stages he let it get to.
    Survival Rates
    According to the American Cancer Society, for all stages of pancreatic cancer combined, the one-year relative survival rate is 20%, and the five-year rate is 4%.
    Jobs survived 8 years after diagnosis - that's about as good as anyone could possibly hope for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acturus View Post
    Late on the reply to this, but knowing what little I know about the transplant process, a donor may specifically choose a recipient. If Jobs had a family member or close friend that matched, it wouldn't be an issue in terms of organ procurement. If the docs/hospital/other providers all agree to handle the case, it's not an issue on that end either.

    If he had to get one from the organ bank, then he would have been subjected to the process of who needs one the most and who deserves one the most.

    Of course, having cancer doesn't automatically screen you out of the process, nor do viruses like HIV/AIDS or Hep C in some cases. There's just a hierarchy applied based on the availability of the organ, how likely it is to match up with the recipient, and of the list of waiting recipients, who would benefit the most. It's not a cut-and-dry decision tree.

    However, money does make the world go 'round, so it's entirely possible that a liver donor was paid for their time and trouble, and Jobs' transplant episode was all self-paid care.
    His liver was from a young man in his 20s that was killed in an automobile accident. Steve would have died while waiting for a liver in California, so he and his doctors used a loophole in the UNOS system and put him on the Tennessee registry instead. He was bumped nearly to the top of the list due to his condition.

    Back in 09 when it happened, it brought a lot of media attention because it shed light on the fact that people of means could exploit the system and move to areas with shorter waiting lists. There was supposed to be all kinds of reform talk last summer, but I don't know what ever came of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miokomioko View Post
    From what I have been reading (and hearing testimony from his doctors), Steve Jobs didn't have the super-aggressive form of PC. There are like 4 forms of it, and only one of those is the big, scary, you're-gonna'-die one. I guess they can't disclose his medical records, but it's being said that he didn't have the more aggressive form, and that he fucking blew it by attempting to find "alternate" treatment to the common whipple surgery. He also blew it by diving headlong into his work instead of dealing with his illness, like he was trying to ignore it until it started really affecting his health, which is when it's a little too late and the treatments were not enough for the advances stages he let it get to.
    The Ramzi Amri guy who is starting all this crap is now back peddling a bit saying:

    "I do not pretend to know anything about the case on a personal level and I never participated in the care of Mr. Jobs," Amri wrote. "I base all my cancer figures on my own research or sources from biomedical research known to me."

    Pretty much everyone who was directly involved is saying this guy doesn't know all the facts and is basically talking out his ass, adding that treatable is not always synonymous with curable & they are not going to discuss Steve's treatment.

    Sure, the kind of tumor that he had is the best most treatable kind, but it's still a nasty fucking cancer that will eventually kill you. As Archi said, he lived longer than most people ever will after getting the diagnosis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dantrag View Post
    "LOL iPhone 4S, such a horrible phone"

    Only sold 4million in the first 3 days.

    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...BUJ71LILM4.DTL
    Siri alone makes it worth purchasing for the sheer amusement she provides.

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    Being shitty never hurt the sales of an Apple product before, why start now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nevex View Post
    Siri alone makes it worth purchasing for the sheer amusement she provides.

    Shit That Siri Says is pretty good.

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    Several friends have gotten the 4s now and I've messed around with them. Between Siri and iMessage I am actually thinking of switching over.

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    Has apple ran out of "catching up to current android phones" features now and are actually implementing new ones? Sounds like it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acturus View Post
    Late on the reply to this, but knowing what little I know about the transplant process, a donor may specifically choose a recipient. If Jobs had a family member or close friend that matched, it wouldn't be an issue in terms of organ procurement. If the docs/hospital/other providers all agree to handle the case, it's not an issue on that end either.

    Of course, having cancer doesn't automatically screen you out of the process, nor do viruses like HIV/AIDS or Hep C in some cases. There's just a hierarchy applied based on the availability of the organ, how likely it is to match up with the recipient, and of the list of waiting recipients, who would benefit the most. It's not a cut-and-dry decision tree.

    However, money does make the world go 'round, so it's entirely possible that a liver donor was paid for their time and trouble, and Jobs' transplant episode was all self-paid care.
    Logged in to say that the top two statements are false, and the bottom one is probably the case. He most likely paid a doctor/board to get it done.
    The donor selecting a receiver was outlawed, and if you have a terminal disease, youre not even considered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mellema View Post
    Several friends have gotten the 4s now and I've messed around with them. Between Siri and iMessage I am actually thinking of switching over.
    What are 2 things that apple should have provided for free but because sheeple have more money than sense they will pay for it all over again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Builttolast View Post
    What are 2 things that apple should have provided for free but because sheeple have more money than sense they will pay for it all over again.
    iMessage works for any device running iOS5. Siri is just 4S. There are always new features offered on new items. And since I've never had an iPhone, I'm not paying for it all over again. I'm simply considering buying something because I like the features on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mellema View Post
    iMessage works for any device running iOS5. Siri is just 4S. There are always new features offered on new items. And since I've never had an iPhone, I'm not paying for it all over again. I'm simply considering buying something because I like the features on it.
    Fair call and comment doesn't apply to you even though I quoted you lol. I just see too many people with iphone4 buying iphone4s as if it is some great new thing when it's just bugfixes (which you shouldn't pay for) and 1 noteable feature which many non-apple companies would provide as part of existing support.

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    So, basically, they're convincing idiots to upgrade for an app that is arbitrarily locked into only working on the new phone. Awesome. They don't even need to upgrade hardware between generations anymore. Let's release a new phone with every firmware update, too. It'll sell millions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kerberoz View Post
    So, basically, they're convincing idiots to upgrade for an app that is arbitrarily locked into only working on the new phone. Awesome. They don't even need to upgrade hardware between generations anymore. Let's release a new phone with every firmware update, too. It'll sell millions.
    Lol pretty much, to this day i'm really glad i skipped on the 4. So the upgrade was huge for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kerberoz View Post
    So, basically, they're convincing idiots to upgrade for an app that is arbitrarily locked into only working on the new phone. Awesome. They don't even need to upgrade hardware between generations anymore. Let's release a new phone with every firmware update, too. It'll sell millions.
    huh

    http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20111017PR200.html

    While much of the coverage of Apple's iPhone 4S announcement focused on the new device's similarity to the iPhone 4, an IHS analysis of the product illustrates key changes in the product's feature set and component selection. Important differences include a major upgrade to the apps processor, the use of a higher-resolution and more advanced camera module, and the addition of a new cellular radio that makes the iPhone 4S a true world phone, according to Wayne Lam, senior analyst at IHS.

    The iPhone 4S uses a new apps processor compared to the single-core A4 used in the previous HSPA and CDMA iPhone 4 models. The iPhone 4S employs the same dual-core A5 apps processor used in the iPad 2, likely along with the same SDRAM memory configuration at 4 gigabits (Gb). The use of this low density of memory highlights the efficiency of Apple's iOS operating system compared to those of competitive smartphones, which use twice as much SDRAM, at 8Gb. This lowers the cost of this memory subsystem, leading to greater design economy relative to alternative phones.

    The iPhone 4S integrates a five-lens camera module, a first in any smartphone analyzed by the IHS iSuppli Teardown Analysis service. Previously, the state-of-art has been a four-lens approach. The 4S camera module is an autofocus device with an 8-megapixel (8MP) resolution, compared to 5MP in the iPhone 4 models. Like the iPhone 4, the 4S employs backside illumination (BSI) technology.

    iPhone 4S merges the HSPA and CDMA radio capabilities found separately in the two previous iPhone 4 models into a single product that can address global wireless networks, making it a world phone. No other handset OEM produces a single device for multiple operators and for multiple geographies on this scale. Because of this, the iPhone 4S can be used on both the AT&T and Verizon wireless networks, in contrast to requiring two different models of the iPhone 4 to work in these areas. The iPhone 4S also can work with the Sprint network, making it compatible with the top three networks in the US. Changes to the radio design include the use of an updated Qualcomm baseband processor, the MDM6610.

    In contrast to the iPhone 4 models, the baseband processor is discrete and is no longer integrated with the radio frequency (RF) transceiver. The RF transceiver is the Qualcomm RTR8605, a dual-mode device previously observed by the IHS iSuppli Teardown Analysis Service in other handset designs, such as the Hewlett-Packard Veer and HTC Thunderbolt.

    The 4S also likely makes use of three different power amplifier module module suppliers: Avago, Skyworks and TriQuint. Previously, only Avago was found in the CDMA version of the iPhone 4, and both Skyworks and TriQuint were featured in the HSPA/GSM version of the iPhone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pyro View Post
    For some reason, several people on the internet feel the need to charge outrageous prices for the DVD copy of that movie.
    What movie was that?

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