End of The Simpsons

[Gwynplaine]

Anywho is it just me, or do the VA's just seem like greedy bitches at this point? 500k$ an episode for just doing something you do anyway? C'mon now...

But, but, but, Nancy Cartwright needs it to fund Scientology!

Yeah so good riddance to this show. Nothing remains of what made it good.

[Correction]

8 million a year and they are upset about getting bumped to 4million? Fuck that noise. How about they get a paycut down to 55k/year and live on that for a change. It's amazing how greedy some people are, reminds me of that recent news where Depp made 300million off the pirates movies.

20th Century Fox Television alone makes over $800 million a year in profit. But yeah let's call the VAs of their longest running show greedy.

[Fievel]

8 million a year and they are upset about getting bumped to 4million? Fuck that noise. How about they get a paycut down to 55k/year and live on that for a change. It's amazing how greedy some people are, reminds me of that recent news where Depp made 300million off the pirates movies.

If you were being paid $440k/year to do a job would you be okay with one day just being told you'll now only make $55k/year to do the same work? I think not.

[Qalbert]

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[AoE]

To be fair, if I were doing the same simple-assed job for 20+ years, got paid millions of dollars to do it, and successfully negotiated a pay-raise, I personally wouldn't give a shit if anyone thought I was greedy. I'd imagine a lot of you would feel the same way.

With how hard it is to become a millionaire in the first place, I wouldn't feel bad in the slightest. Plus you guys don't even know what they're doing with their money to make a judgment claim that they're greedy assholes. Being rich doesn't automatically make you bad regardless of how you subjectively feel they're actually worth.

[Tatatoothy]

I'm actually not sure why both parties can't agree to have the VAs get a cut of the money from syndication. Do you realize how many times a day the show airs? Maybe it's just me, but it seems like whether I'm just coming back from work or slumped over in a hotel room late at night, the show is always on. I'm sure the VAs could live comfortably off that money alone, not including merchandising and DVD sales.

Shearer brings up a decent point of view, props to him for at least speaking out to offer a different perspective on the negotiations.

[Melena]

Cause fox is a bunch of retards. Hell this clip here of family guy pretty much sums up the intelligence of fox network execs.

http://www.milkandcookies.com/link/73119/detail/

[Trichocyst]

Fox has a history of being stupid and greedy:

[Sagacious Sundi]

Sucks that such a celebrated and significant show would go out for being "no longer profitable" and not on its own terms, but I guess that's what they get for not calling it quits years ago.

But, but, but, Nancy Cartwright needs it to fund Scientology!

Today I learned that she's a Scientologist and voiced the dipped shoe in Who Framed Roger Rabbit. The more you know~

[Souj]

Sucks that such a celebrated and significant show would go out for being "no longer profitable" and not on its own terms, but I guess that's what they get for not calling it quits years ago.

I doubt they would have ever stopped making the Simpsons on their own terms

[Lordender]

I was like in 5th grade when the Simpsons started lol, holy fuck.

[Qalbert]

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/liv...pay-cut-245648

It’s high noon for The Simpsons and it appears the voice cast has blinked.

The group of lead actors is close to agreeing to a new deal to keep TV’s longest running entertainment show on the air, according to a source.

That includes Dan Castellaneta (Homer, Grampa Simpson, Krusty the Clown, and others), Julie Kavner (Marge and others), Nancy Cartwright (Bart and others), Yeardley Smith (Lisa), Hank Azaria (Moe, Chief Wiggum and Apu), and Harry Shearer (Mr. Burns, Principal Skinner, and Ned Flanders, among others).

While the cast is ready to agree to a pay cut from the $400,000 per episode they have been making since 2008, the source said that is not as deep as the 45% reduction in salary that Fox has demanded, which would have meant they get about $250,000 an episode.

The show’s top producers, according to reports, have already agreed to reduce their current compensation, but the big difference from the cast is that several of them have “back end” deals that pay them additional amounts based on profits from all the revenue sources related to the show – such as licensing, merchandising and syndication of reruns to local TV stations.

The cast has not been paid a cut of the back end profits, and is not expected to get any in this new contract. Harry Shearer put out a statement early Friday saying he would take a cut of as much as 70% in salary if the network provided a share of back end profits, but his statement adds that Fox has remained steadfast in its refusal to do so.

Clearly the cast wants the show to continue. It isn’t a tremendous amount of work (most of them do other jobs as well), and it has been a great professional calling card for the 23 years the show has been on the air.

On Friday, Nancy Cartwright said in a statement about her desire to see the show continue: “Absolutely! "The Simpsons is a remarkable chronicle of our times. I've wanted to do this since I was 16! And I want to keep doing it until I am 86! Long live the Simpsons!"

This is the latest in a long history of salary squabbles between the network and the voice cast. The series went on in 1989, with the cast making about $30,000 per episode, and the first big battle took place in 1998 when Fox threatened to replace the cast. There were other tough negotiations in 2004 and 2008, when the actors got up to their current salary.

The difference now is that the show’s ratings have continued to erode, along with those of most primetime shows. While it is still pulling enough viewers to deserve to remain on the air, the studio insists the deficit to make the animated shows has now risen to a point where it is unacceptable to them. That is why Fox has threatened to end the show if they can’t make a deal.

Of course Fox could also re-cast the voice actors with talent at a lower salary, but that would bring them a lot of bad public relations.

What we do know is that the Friday noon deadline set by the studio has now passed and neither Fox or the actors is saying anything. The actors and their representatives were in a long conference call Friday morning; but the answer to what it all means continues to be “D’oh?”

[Cleverness]

To be fair, if I were doing the same simple-assed job for 20+ years, got paid millions of dollars to do it, and successfully negotiated a pay-raise, I personally wouldn't give a shit if anyone thought I was greedy. I'd imagine a lot of you would feel the same way.

With how hard it is to become a millionaire in the first place, I wouldn't feel bad in the slightest. Plus you guys don't even know what they're doing with their money to make a judgment claim that they're greedy assholes. Being rich doesn't automatically make you bad regardless of how you subjectively feel they're actually worth.

Pretty much this, I mean, it's not like they signed on a few years ago and got paid obscene amounts of money. They've been at it for over 20 years, and were just at that much for a little while for what is really an iconic show. TV actors and such get paid obscene amounts of money, but not many of those shows will probably get rerun as much as the Simpsons will unless it has "Law and Order" in the name. If they want to negotiate to take an even CHEAPER paycut, which is what Fox says they need to do anyway for another season, and in return want a small part of profits from that, I don't see the issue aside from Fox being greedy assholes.

That said, just let it end. They've had a few good episodes the last few seasons but it's really not as good as it was since it's main appeal has been done by several other shows like South Park, Family Guy, etc.

[Gwynplaine]

God dammit.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...MPLATE=DEFAULT

[Insanecyclone]

But there isn't anymore milk left...beating it further won't help.

[Ksandra]

I'm glad Shearer gave a statement, it really puts to light that the actors (or at least him) aren't just trying to be greedy fucks.

I admit, while the Simpsons isn't as strong as it used to be, it still gives me laughs so I say more power to them if they keep it going.

[Ace-o-fire]

I'll pretty-much back anything that isn't a macfarlane show. maybe they should move it to another day in the week. or go the route of bringing it to Comedy Central.

[Gwynplaine]

No. They should hire writers and animation directors who don't suck. Back in the day writers like Conan O'Brien wrote their classic eps that they have wasted and been riding for years. And even when there is a half-funny joke written they manage to deliver it in the most blandly amazing ways that it falls down like a blob of mayo.

[Koyangi]

Why do people hate MacFarlane's shows so much?

[Syntex]

fixed

Simpsons should been canned around the time the movie was released. It has been an unfunny, stale show for years.

This.

When family guy rolled around I found it to be much more enjoyable then what simpsons offered. The show got too bland a long time ago and should have died then.