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    @Ken: I agree the problem fighting him is the ambiguous as hell jump ins. His foward+mk can be countered by Ibuki Ultra on block :D So np to me, I dunno about other chars though.

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    How do I deal with cammy? I am completely free to any scrub with her it annoys the shit outta me. I swear the char takes no brains to play.

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    Usually, Cammys will make their own mistakes and hang themselves. Block more and play patient. Vega can stay away from Cammy easily. Don't let her get close, poke, and time her out if you have to lol.

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    Yeah just don't be overly aggressive. She had a solid dp, so most players in your point range will be way too liberal with it. Same rules as a shoto more or less, don't try too many games on knockdown if they have two bars, if they have less the worst that can happen is some damage and a soft knockdown so go nuts.

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    oh and she does raw hooligan just stand still and press your fastest normal

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    Quote Originally Posted by Callisto View Post
    Yeah just don't be overly aggressive. She had a solid dp, so most players in your point range will be way too liberal with it. Same rules as a shoto more or less, don't try too many games on knockdown if they have two bars, if they have less the worst that can happen is some damage and a soft knockdown so go nuts.
    Actually, a lot of them just do the low to the ground thing, I dunno the name, cannon spike maybe? I don't know what's safe or not when I can punish her. Then they mash buttons so I get hit by a bad frametrap. How do I deal with the "Roll into a ball" thing. Will a jump avoid the throw?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chun Liroy View Post
    Actually, a lot of them just do the low to the ground thing, I dunno the name, cannon spike maybe? I don't know what's safe or not when I can punish her. Then they mash buttons so I get hit by a bad frametrap. How do I deal with the "Roll into a ball" thing. Will a jump avoid the throw?
    Spiral Arrow, that can actually be safe depending on spacing, but if they do it close and both hits are blocked you can definitely punish with any four-frame normal, though the hit stun of the move is a little visually misleading, it ends a frame or two later than you'll probably think it does.

    Hooligan is the somersault thing, just stand still and jab her out of the air. You can't jump out.

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    How do you beat LV3 focus on wakeup? a focus break move or backdash?

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    Hooligan will beat jump or backdash usually.

    All Spiral arrows are unsafe on block from certain distances (most distances are unsafe on block). Only the fierce one hits twice, so don't just look for 2 blocked hits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chun Liroy View Post
    How do you beat LV3 focus on wakeup? a focus break move or backdash?
    Lol if you quick rise you can almost do anything to beat this. On a hard knockdown, you should just be able to back jump or back dash still? I haven't been hit by this in like over a year+, so I dunno really lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chun Liroy View Post
    How do you beat LV3 focus on wakeup? a focus break move or backdash?
    Throw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Weltall View Post
    Hooligan will beat jump or backdash usually.

    All Spiral arrows are unsafe on block from certain distances (most distances are unsafe on block). Only the fierce one hits twice, so don't just look for 2 blocked hits.
    ah, thanks, idk if I ever see the other two lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Weltall View Post
    Lol if you quick rise you can almost do anything to beat this. On a hard knockdown, you should just be able to back jump or back dash still? I haven't been hit by this in like over a year+, so I dunno really lol
    I think I was in the corner and got swept or something. I was pretty mad.

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    Level 3 focus will never work as attacking someone on soft or hard knockdown. I mean, it could, but its never 100% guaranteed. Basically, they have to just stand there.

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    @SB sounds to me like you need to adjust your spacing, time to hit the lab. Other than that, I haven't had major problems. Vs Rog, well he's my main and once I'm up his ass they can't do jackshit. However, if they turtle the shit out of me and stay out of range I'm boned. And who the hell are you playing, bananaken? <_<

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    Shinebox himself is rather damn good with Ken. When he jumps in after a knockdown or throw, I am clueless whether it will be crossup with MK, forward jump with FK, or cross up delay with Tatsu.

    That is why Ken scares me WAY more than Ryu. A good Akuma is way better than either, but imo Ken > Ryu.

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    JUST IN TIME FOR WRESTLING TO BE OVER!

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