Ultra Street Fighter IV: AVOID PS4 RELEASE FOR NOW

[octopus]

So much for a level playing field for the world...

[Weltall]

I am guessing the EVO team will make it v2012 for EVO....this just literally wouldn't be fair to anyone without an arcade that has Ultra in April.

[The Blackrose]

It's going to have to be AE2012. Releasing the week of EVO is pretty damn retarded.

EDIT: Hell, none of the RTE events will have run it by the time EVO rolls around.

[Xno Kappa]

I'd rather they delete Bison's teleport altogether at this point.

[Weltall]

I'd rather them just delete Bison. #IBUKI

[Callisto]

They might as well have, lol.

[octopus]

Give him the Alpha series fireball #Kappa

[Krandor]

Like Calli said about Sak changes, I'm hoping the Bison stuff is just weirdness from first location test. The teleport nerf is whatever, it's mostly there as a last ditch escape from oki when you're out of meter. The LK scissor being negative on block is just a big ball of wtf. Bison lives on his LK scissor pressure game, remove that and he's got almost nothing.

[Callisto]

Yeah I've never seen Bisons even use teleport enough for it to be a big deal, he has meter fairly often. I really do think they're trying to make it so everyone just S.HKs each other to death, my issue being that in most matches where one character has vastly better ground normals, that matchup is going to be very one-sided. Oddly I think that soft knockdowns will be strong since it seems like delayed wakeup is only for hard knockdowns, I'm not sure about all characters but I know some that have safe jump setups regardless of if the person quick rises or not. I also think grapplers are going to maul, and not just out the gate like they normally do in new games.

The exchanges up close are going to be weird, it seems so far like you're supposed to get one single chance to hit when you're up close, if it blocks you finish in a special that is not punishable, but not positive, and then you get to play defense.

[shidobu]

Dudley
Stand HP hitbox slightly expanded forward and downward (noice)
Stand HK has less pushback on counter-hit (thank you) Hated they took out counter st.rh > st.rh > ex gunner
Crouching LP hitbox slightly expanded forward
Crouching MK start-up now 7F
F+HK hitbox slightly expanded forward
All Target Combo damage increased by 10
Light Machine Gun Blow -1 on block
Normal Short Swing Blow throw invincible until the end of active frames (thank you)
EX Short Swing Blow throw invincible until the first hit (thank you)

Ryu
UC2 (Metsu Shoryuken) has 1F more invincibility Like it needed this anyways? (shit is gotlike online)

All i could want for oni is just a faster walk speed or better dash. Most annoying thing about oni is his forward throw.
(HERE LEMME JUST TOSS YOU FULL SCREEN SO I HAVE TO WORK TO GET BACK IN". At best you can do after a forward throw is meaty fireball bumfuck retarded
i want to learn gouken now for shits and giggles

[Krandor]

I also think grapplers are going to maul, and not just out the gate like they normally do in new games.

Double ultra is a ginormous buff to both Hawk and Gief, and assuming Combofiend follows up on his comments about making sure cancelable cr Mk for Hawk is actually useful, he's likely going to be a pretty legit character on top of his huge walk speed buff.

[Callisto]

Double Ultra seems like it'll be manageable if it stays how it is, atm it looks like two full stocks gets you 60% of the Ultra's damage, so it'll still be a healthy chunk for grapplers but something you can still walk off, especially if they use it earlier in the round.

[Damane]

I will always stick with Ibuki even if her playstyle changes drastically, but I'll be picking up either Elena or Poison for fun. I think Elena looks extremely good from the videos I've seen.

Also, console release date leaked as likely July 11th in the US and July 13th for Europe. THIS IS ONE DAY BEFORE EVO LOL. Anyone not in Japan or without the arcade version is FUCKED for EVO.

Thank Christ my arcade has Japanese cabinets and will have Ultra on JP arcade release week..

Makoto looks sick if you can connect EX fuki on the ground in any reasonable form to jump cancel it... There is alot of damage potential there (not like she didnt have any before).

[octopus]

From SRK according to vryu, Makoto changes:

Changes so far:

- Better jump MK crossup
- crHK 200 stun
- EX fukiage hits grounded opponent
- EX fukiage has same speed. So combo from crLK is 2 hits
- Only EX fukiage is jump cancelable
- EX fukiage is jump cancelable on block too
- (not 100% sure on translation) +4 recovery frame on every whiffed karakusa
- backthrow range: 0.90 => 0.85
- forward throw range: 0.90 => 0.95
- ultra1 damage 480 => 440
- ultra2 goes through fireball (gouken)
- stHP hayate cancel is +5 against crouching opponent (was nerfed to +4 in AE2012)

[Callisto]

- crHK 200 stun

jesus christ lol

[Aurara]

Makoto OP now. THOSE FEET

[Weltall]

I've been wanting to pick up either Makoto or Oni. One of them I will play as an alt in Ultra!

[Aurara]

Do Oni, I think he's going to be super good if you can FADC his SRK on block now, plus his normals/mixups are pretty stellar.

[Correction]

[Callisto]

Do Oni, I think he's going to be super good if you can FADC his SRK on block now, plus his normals/mixups are pretty stellar.

Keep in mind that being able to FADC on block isn't a big deal for him anymore, at the least doing so forward is a free throw for everyone, and his backdash is kinda crappy so it's probably a free sweep for most.