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    Quote Originally Posted by Tweek View Post
    how can you say this is not an upgrade from Boller?


    lot's of Palmer hate around here but you guys have to think about the limited options the Raiders had and the position they were in after losing Campbell for a absolute minimum of 6 weeks
    It handcuffs the Raiders in the long run. Sure installing a better QB works for the now, but if that now isn't spectacular, it's really diminishing the long term benefit for temporary mediocre gain. Think of it as one of those would you rather have $1 million right now or .01 cent that doubles everyday for a couple years.

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    if a first round pick turns out to be carson palmer, I'd say you break even with the pick - not a great pick, but not a bust. Sounds like an average first rounder to me.

    the raiders want to win now rather than later, so sacrificed another pick as well which will probably be second, but they dont care if its a first if they make it deep into the playoffs.

    I have no problems with this trade. think of how bad some first round picks have been lately

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    just read there was a late effort to get jared allen in NE

    FUCK

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valisk View Post
    It handcuffs the Raiders in the long run. Sure installing a better QB works for the now, but if that now isn't spectacular, it's really diminishing the long term benefit for temporary mediocre gain. Think of it as one of those would you rather have $1 million right now or .01 cent that doubles everyday for a couple years.
    $1million right now that can be invested immediately.

    However that doesn't work with this situation.

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    Remember fans: after we win the superbowl this year, we have 2 first round picks and 2 second round picks next year

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    Mike Brown did not say that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valisk View Post
    It handcuffs the Raiders in the long run. Sure installing a better QB works for the now, but if that now isn't spectacular, it's really diminishing the long term benefit for temporary mediocre gain. Think of it as one of those would you rather have $1 million right now or .01 cent that doubles everyday for a couple years.
    if it turns into 2 first round picks that means Palmer takes them to the playoffs, that's not a bad thing considering how long it's been since they've been competitive. The thing people need to remember is this wasn't STL who is a shit team, this is a good team, they had a real shot at the playoffs before Campbell got hurt without making a move after Campbell got hurt they basically throw those chances away.

    I think Palmer gives them a chance at playoffs 2 years in a row given the rest of the young team. It's not like they signed someone over 35 or pushing 40, they traded for a QB that has proven he can win with a (no offense heady) less than avg team not to mention he has a history with Hue Jackson which means Jackson knows exactly what he's getting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demosthenes11 View Post
    Remember fans: after we win the superbowl this year, we have 2 first round picks and 2 second round picks next year
    lol you barely beat the cowboys. pretty sure the national patriots talk is over

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    Speaking of limited options @ QB, I was at the Sports Authority near my apartment today picking up new shoes and saw that they had some Alex Smith jerseys.

    Something is seriously wrong with the world when I'm actually considering picking one up to wear in the place of my Steve Young one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tyven View Post
    lol you barely beat the cowboys. pretty sure the national patriots talk is over
    Tbh, you give Rob Ryan a week off to scheme on that offense, and only that offense. Shit's gonna go down for real, inb4 loldumbfootballfan but to be honest, if there was no bi-week before hand, the game wouldn't have been that close. Also, I thought we were bros Tyven, you cut me deep :/

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    Hester gets fucked up at casino
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    Chicago Bears receiver Devin Hester was slapped on the back of the head at a Des Plaines, Ill., casino on Friday by a man who was arrested on a misdemeanor count of battery, Des Plaines Police Chief Jim Prandini said.

    Daniel Rago, 52, of Mount Prospect, Ill., was charged after slapping the back of Hester's head while the receiver was in a cash transaction line Friday night.

    "Rago comes up from behind and slaps Mr. Hester with an open hand and walks away," Prandini said Tuesday. "Mr. Hester turned around and notified casino security. The offender was escorted to a security office and we were contacted. We were able to review the incident on video, and that verified the facts as stated by Mr. Hester.

    "No prior incident between the two took place."

    Prandini did not believe that Rago knew who he was slapping. He said Rago made some type of statement about "slapping the hat off his head or something."

    Hester cooperated with officers and signed a complaint.

    Rago has a Dec. 1 court date.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AidenCarby View Post
    Tbh, you give Rob Ryan a week off to scheme on that offense, and only that offense. Shit's gonna go down for real, inb4 loldumbfootballfan but to be honest, if there was no bi-week before hand, the game wouldn't have been that close. Also, I thought we were bros Tyven, you cut me deep :/
    its a bird?! its a plane?! its a whoosh!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tyven View Post
    lol you barely beat the cowboys. pretty sure the national patriots talk is over
    the national patriots talk is never over

    mwahahahahahhaa

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cail View Post
    Hester gets fucked up at casino
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    Chicago Bears receiver Devin Hester was slapped on the back of the head at a Des Plaines, Ill., casino on Friday by a man who was arrested on a misdemeanor count of battery, Des Plaines Police Chief Jim Prandini said.

    Daniel Rago, 52, of Mount Prospect, Ill., was charged after slapping the back of Hester's head while the receiver was in a cash transaction line Friday night.

    "Rago comes up from behind and slaps Mr. Hester with an open hand and walks away," Prandini said Tuesday. "Mr. Hester turned around and notified casino security. The offender was escorted to a security office and we were contacted. We were able to review the incident on video, and that verified the facts as stated by Mr. Hester.

    "No prior incident between the two took place."

    Prandini did not believe that Rago knew who he was slapping. He said Rago made some type of statement about "slapping the hat off his head or something."

    Hester cooperated with officers and signed a complaint.

    Rago has a Dec. 1 court date.
    I hear the Viking are going to sign him, since they don't have anyone else that can touch Hester.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cail View Post
    its a bird?! its a plane?! its a whoosh!
    no

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    Miami needs him to go along with brandon marshall to form the dynamic drop duo

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    Quote Originally Posted by AidenCarby View Post
    no
    You replied seriously to a joke.

    SOMEONE GOT DOUBLE WOOSHED.

    But seriously, pats suk.

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    OH NO.

    DWAYNE HARRIS RELEASED WTF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silentleroy View Post
    You replied seriously to a joke.

    SOMEONE GOT DOUBLE WOOSHED.

    But seriously, pats suk.
    http://m2.nflrush.com/v/ff2011/nfl_f...320_180_36.jpg

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    Maybe now the national pats talk will stop, look at who their first 6 opponents were plz. They barely beat the cowboys who lost to the JETS.

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