EVO 2012 is now! EVO July 6-8 CRY ON STREAM, WIN EVO

[Weltall]

Kusoru?

Won a single tourney with a gimmick and Wong wasn't in the top 16 even(he was bullshitting around with Nova...). People know how to work the log trap now, and if he came to EVO he MAY make top 8 in the loser's bracket.

People said the same shit about Tokido last year, and Tokido got blown to hell and back. No JP has a chance to win.

EVO is just a different monster.

[Chun Liroy]

I bet kusoru makes top 16 at least if not top 8. He's more than a gimmick player.

[Weltall]

Yeah, top 16 sounds about right for him, if he was going.

[Chun Liroy]

Yeah, top 16 sounds about right for him, if he was going.

Oh right, forgot he got jipped out of getting paid to go or whatever.

[octopus]

Tokido winning CEO is completely different than Kusoru. Tokido won when most people went to that other tourney in the west coast instead so he didn't really have to beat anybody.

Kusoru pretty much bodied everyone who he played, including FChamp, PR Rog, Yipes, Mihe... Although granted if he played ChrisG or Justin he'd probably lose, he's still a lot better than Tokido.

[samalis]

I thought he did play ChrisG? Or was that Mihe that played ChrisG? I forget.

[octopus]

Mihe beat ChrisG with a perfect ;o

[Callisto]

Kusoru pretty much bodied everyone who he played, including FChamp, PR Rog, Yipes, Mihe... Although granted if he played ChrisG or Justin he'd probably lose, he's still a lot better than Tokido.

This, and a lot of people seem to only remember the log, and forget that he was on some newtype shit defensively at FR. Plus at KVO he was blowing people up with RR and/or Joe dead.

[Vandole]

LOL

Spoiler: show

1. wong doesnt play tekken
2. wong doesnt play pad
3. LOL MARKMAN AND NO TE STICKS

add to the list for megalol

[Viq]

Spoiler: show

1. wong doesnt play tekken
2. wong doesnt play pad
3. LOL MARKMAN AND NO TE STICKS

Wong played T6. He used Jack, and was fucking horrible.

[Chun Liroy]

Mihe beat ChrisG with a perfect ;o

Still love dat perfect on FChamp at SS

[Weltall]

Saying Wong played Tekken 6 is retarded. He played it in the arcades for shits and gigles and would join tournaments to fill up time for like...a month when the only games were MVC2 and Vanilla SF4.

Its worse than saying Daigo plays Marvel 3.

[Akiyama]

Chris G bodied him in that FT10 so that shows you about where Fanatiq lines up. At best, he is 7th or 8th in the US.

My list in order:

1. Marlin Pie - won too many tourneys - better in 3/5 than 2/3 sets so going forward he should do better
2. Chris G - too godlike and when he does lose its usually because he lost it himself rather than opponent winning it
3. Wong - yep
4. Yipes - could be #1/#2 post EVO
5. Champ - strong in tourneys
6. PR Rog - Always comes in top 3 and his drive is strong
7. Flocker - same as Champ for the most part
8. Viscant - I'd take him over Fanatiq when he has been practicing?
9. Mihe - I think he will top 4 EVO this year
10. Noel / Fanatiq - same level either could make or miss top 8 any given tourney

I'm probably forgetting someone better than Noel/Fanatiq.

Yeah, because handling that Morrigan bullshit is easy to do after you just got done bodying a guy 15-5 in a FT15 for a ton of money. Explain to me again how Justin did against Chris G/Dieminion if you will? Oh, what's that? 3-0'd, which forced him to 'go top tier'? Okay.

When Fanatiq's actually TRYING, and wants to win 100%, much like Sanford in SS4.. he could beat anybody. When he's on, I'd put him Top 5 no doubt. Yipes can do the combos, but I'd say he's outta the top 5. IMO.

It's hilarious that you completely leave Combofiend outta the Top 10, yet put a guy in Mihe who showed up to a major tourney and made Top 8.. and that's all we've seen of him. Viscant? really? And Noel? How'd Flocker do this past weekend, too? Actually, how's Flocker done in majors lately? How many other Top 8s has he made since he won that one tourney last year? I haven't actually followed. But yeah, Combo's switched teams a few times to feel out the characters and see who works best, but if he weren't so on that KOF and more into Marvel, he'd be Top 5, yet you give Justin a pass just like that, after he switches around on teams and shit. Funny.

Also, the lack of respect you give Kusoru is fucking absurd. You know why Marvel is "America's" game? Because it's a shit game. I guarantee if Kusoru came over for EVO and actually tier-whored like a lot of America's top 5, he'd make Top 8 easy. EASY. He didn't win just because of the log trap. He won because our players were too retarded to adjust to the log-trap. It's not that it's a beastly assist. It's that he mind fucked people with it, but people like you don't give credit where it's due. You'd much rather be all over Justin Wong's dick than give props.

[Weltall]

1. Did you read the last god damn sentence? Holy shit, wow. I forgot Combofiend because I was typing fast at work. Read better.

2. Fanatiq is always TRYING and has been TRYING hard since Marvel 2. AT NO POINT, EVER, has Fanatiq been a top 5 player in ANY game he has ever played. He was BARELY top 10 at the END of Marvel 2 (I can name you 15-20 better than him from the beginning to end of Marvel 2 with ease; names 9/10 of this thread wouldn't even know pre-stream era).

3. Yipes not top 5, LOL.

4. I'm "all over" Wong because he has won more tourneys than ANYONE at ANY fighting game, in HISTORY. Yes, more than Daigo, more than any JP, more than any European player. The guy won EVERY Marvel 2 tourney for over 4 years and he attended 1-2 a WEEK (go look at SRK tourney archives if you like). Anyone who DOESN'T place $ on Wong in a MM is a fucking IDIOT. There is a reason you never see anyone challenge him to a MM - from Marvel 2 to Marvel 3. He almost won that 07 MM with Ruby/Jill/Ken vs. Duc JR for CHRIST SAKE. He is #1 overall, period. Yipes / Sanford / Fanatiq / Neo / Chunksta / Duc / Demon Hyo / Wigfall / ETC ETC - NOT A DAMN ONE has ever had the nuts to challenge Wong because he would straight WRECK them.

5. Wong has beat Chris G in tourney in the last 1-2 months. It doesn't matter because I still have Chris G above him in my rankings, lol.

[Akiyama]

1. Did you read the last god damn sentence? Holy shit, wow. I forgot Combofiend because I was typing fast at work. Read better.

2. Fanatiq is always TRYING and has been TRYING hard since Marvel 2. AT NO POINT, EVER, has Fanatiq been a top 5 player in ANY game he has ever played. He was BARELY top 10 at the END of Marvel 2 (I can name you 15-20 better than him from the beginning to end of Marvel 2 with ease; names 9/10 of this thread wouldn't even know pre-stream era).

3. Yipes not top 5, LOL.

4. I'm "all over" Wong because he has won more tourneys than ANYONE at ANY fighting game, in HISTORY. Yes, more than Daigo, more than any JP, more than any European player. The guy won EVERY Marvel 2 tourney for over 4 years and he attended 1-2 a WEEK (go look at SRK tourney archives if you like). Anyone who DOESN'T place $ on Wong in a MM is a fucking IDIOT. There is a reason you never see anyone challenge him to a MM - from Marvel 2 to Marvel 3. He almost won that 07 MM with Ruby/Jill/Ken vs. Duc JR for CHRIST SAKE. He is #1 overall, period. Yipes / Sanford / Fanatiq / Neo / Chunksta / Duc / Demon Hyo / Wigfall / ETC ETC - NOT A DAMN ONE has ever had the nuts to challenge Wong because he would straight WRECK them.

5. Wong has beat Chris G in tourney in the last 1-2 months. It doesn't matter because I still have Chris G above him in my rankings, lol.

Read every bit of it. Combo's sort of hard to forget when compared to guys like fucking Animu Mihe.

I'd take Fanatiq in a long FT10/15 set that he knows about ahead of time over ANYONE in your "Top 10" Period. Maybe he's not in your top 5 when it comes to consistent placings at tournies, but I'd take him to win money over anyone there. Well, anyone but Justin I guess, rofl. I can't hate the guy for being stupid good.

If we can't base Fanatiq's 'rank' based on how he does in matches like he had over the weekend, why would we base Yipes' place based on the fact that he's won what.. one tourney this year? if any, but I think he got one.

As for Wong, I like Justin a lot more than I used to. He seems like a really cool dude, and he's really naturally talented, but you're worse about his jock than Nitsuki is on Flocker's (sorry to name drop you there, Nits!) and it's irritating as fuck. Either way, why are we talking about MVC2 right now, though? That's not the current game. Still.. I know he's a top player in a lot of games he plays, but you on his jock is just annoying, lol

And yeah, I guess you did have Chris G higher, and I do agree considering that Morrigan tech is just so good. His match with Combo (who you left out lol) was absolutely fun as hell to watch. Combo's probably my favorite when it comes to rushing down an opponent.

Also, don't get me wrong. I'm not saying Fanatiq is #1 OMG BEST, but I'd say when he's on, he can legit be Top 5. Has the potential.

[Weltall]

Plenty of kids got potential, but you need more than that to be top 5, which he is not.

You don't like when I state FACTS about Wong. They aren't just opinions, but #'s. That is like getting mad at someone spouting off Jordan #'s in basketball. If anyone is the Jordan of the FGC, its Wong in the US and Tokido/Daigo internationally. There is not a single American who even comes close to Wong's overall resume. The closest would be Eddie Lee and he hasn't been in the scene for 5 years.

You don't like that or it annoys you? Too bad. Combo IS a lot more fun to watch AND a lot more fun to hangout with IRL, but that isn't the mother fucking topic.

[Akiyama]

Plenty of kids got potential, but you need more than that to be top 5, which he is not.

You don't like when I state FACTS about Wong. They aren't just opinions, but #'s. That is like getting mad at someone spouting off Jordan #'s in basketball. If anyone is the Jordan of the FGC, its Wong in the US and Tokido/Daigo internationally. There is not a single American who even comes close to Wong's overall resume. The closest would be Eddie Lee and he hasn't been in the scene for 5 years.

You don't like that or it annoys you? Too bad. Combo IS a lot more fun to watch AND a lot more fun to hangout with IRL, but that isn't the mother fucking topic.

No, it annoys me when there's a tourney and it seems like every god damn thing that you type out has to do with how hard you're riding that Justin Wong dick and THAT annoys me. Dude's talented, I get it. Dude makes a fuck ton of cash and wins a fuck ton of tournies and is best in the US. I get that too. I just don't need to be reminded of it seemingly every fucking tourney, Lol. Did I make that clear yet? Obviously you won't change how you handle that shit just because it annoys me, but I'm just putting that out there.

And people would be retarded to argue that Justin Wong isn't a player and doesn't have a great resume, just like Jordan when he played. At least Justin's still relevant to his scene unlike Jordan and his current..inability to run a franchise, but that's neither here nor there. I'm just saying that watching people be all over someone else's jock is annoying as fuck and I wish you'd give it a rest, because you're almost worse than Diago fanboys out there, lol.

Again, you're not going to stop just due to me complaining, but I"m throwing it out there, and I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one. :<

Oh, and while the Jordan/Justin Wong comparison is nice.. just no. Just fucking no, lol. Don't.

[Chun Liroy]

I'd take Fanatiq in a long FT10/15 set that he knows about ahead of time over ANYONE in your "Top 10" Period.

Let's not say things we can;t take back. Marlin would body him.

[octopus]

The thing about Justin is that he is definitely the best fighting game player in the US. But that's not what we're ranking. We're ranking the best Marvel 3 player in the US. I feel like since UMVC3 started Justin hasn't been serious about this game. Maybe it's because he completely dominated vanilla mvc3 and became bored. But for some reason he hasn't been trying to win as much as he could.

If he was seriously trying to dominate UMVC3, I have no doubt that he can be #1, but as of right now, I don't think he's top 5.

[Akiyama]

The thing about Justin is that he is definitely the best fighting game player in the US. But that's not what we're ranking. We're ranking the best Marvel 3 player in the US. I feel like since UMVC3 started Justin hasn't been serious about this game. Maybe it's because he completely dominated vanilla mvc3 and became bored. But for some reason he hasn't been trying to win as much as he could.

If he was seriously trying to dominate UMVC3, I have no doubt that he can be #1, but as of right now, I don't think he's top 5.

I think he realizes that UMVC3 is not that great of a game so he hasn't put his full focus on it like he did with the ten years of MVC2. I completely agree here.