Random Mists of Pandaria Discussion

[Boyiee]

This really screws with me in terms of what to play in the xpac. I was waiting for those paladin changes and they look interesting.

Since I'm sick and tired of shit lately I'll probably run a healer main with a dps offset though, so it's really about which looks better, spriest ret or boomy cause shaman can go fuck itself. I'm torn!

[Meresgi]

So outbreak has been taken out, and instead we get two abilities, one 30seconds longer then outbreak and one that requires our pet. Frost kind of gets screwed on that front it looks. Also no bone shield kind of sucks, I was looking forward to that for pvp a death grip that slows is ok...but eh id still actually rather have survive-ability and not get face fucked by every melee in the game.

Remorseless Winter: Surrounds the Death Knight with a swirling tempest of frigid air, dealing 3777-->374 Frost damage to enemies within 8 yards, every 1 sec for 8 sec. Each time Remorseless Winter deals damage, it reduces enemy movement speed by 15%, stacking up to 5 times. Upon receiving a fifth application, an enemy will be stunned for 6 sec.

From almost 4k to 400 dmg? Is this due to the dmg/hp pools being brought down in MoP? that's a pretty severe dmg nerf if that's not the case.

[Kaylia]

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Why are you comparing these abilities to what we have now. It's impossible to tell what kind of dps output you're going to produce, or what kind of synergy your abilities will have.

[Siniroth]

Also keep in mind it will probably scale with AP, I can't think of an ability that gives an accurate rating of how much damage it does based purely on the tooltip before any enhancement it gets from stats (cod example: Incinerate, 510-592 damage + 85-99)

[Meresgi]

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Why are you comparing these abilities to what we have now. It's impossible to tell what kind of dps output you're going to produce, or what kind of synergy your abilities will have.

I'm comparing the abilities that for the most part apply our diseases on a new target akin to redirect. Outbreak is being taken out completely, and a new Outbreak-esque move is being brought in, that does dmg, but is on a 30sec longer CD which is strange. as for the loss of bone shield, that's a pretty damning removal from our talent tree. It was going to be a given to take that in any form of pvp and probably pve as its a good dmg boost but a great survival tool, something dks really need (pvp won't change in MoP, dont kid yourself, people will be getting globaled a year from now with certain comps just like now).

As for the dmg reduction on the other talent, from 4k to 400 is a big jump down, but then again frost strike went from 130% to 65% so it's probably a numbers tweaking thing. Though if the dmg remains very low, it goes a lot lower on the totem pole.

[Odon]

Seeing just a few of the changes for hunter, it'll be a like a whole new class probably, I'm sure they want to redo it alot, especially (hopefully) the whole focus thing.

WE WINDRUNNER NOW

[Gulkeeva]

WE WINDRUNNER NOW

I'd wish I had an ability like her ghouls in that 1 heroic.. where you surround someone with all your pets.. and if they don't kill one before all the pets run into them, they get raped!