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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimmauk View Post
    If a girl swallows, is it murder?
    Wouldn't it be more like genocide?

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    Here's an up for a down: http://reproductiverights.org/en/pre...ultrasound-law

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    Federal Court Blocks Demeaning North Carolina Ultrasound Law

    Middle District Court Issues Preliminary Injunction Preventing Key Measures of Intrusive and Biased Law from Going into Effect Tomorrow; Court Says Plaintiffs ‘Are Likely to Succeed on the Merits of the First Amendment Challenge’


    10.25.11 - (PRESS RELEASE) U.S. District Judge Catherine Eagles granted in part a preliminary injunction today that will block enforcement of intrusive measures in the new North Carolina law requiring abortion providers to show women an ultrasound and describe the images in detail four hours before having an abortion, even if the woman objects.

    Civil liberties advocates, including the ACLU of North Carolina Legal Foundation, the Center for Reproductive Rights, Planned Parenthood Federation of America, and the American Civil Liberties Union, filed a lawsuit in the federal district court for the Middle District of North Carolina on September 29 challenging the constitutionality of the law, arguing that it violates the rights of health care providers and women seeking abortion care.

    “We are extremely pleased that the court has blocked this clear attack on the fundamental rights of health care providers providing abortions in North Carolina,” said Bebe Anderson, senior counsel at the Center for Reproductive Rights. “The part of the law that the court blocked not only forces doctors to go against their medical judgment to deliver an ideological message to their patients, but also forces women to lie down and just take it. It’s hard to imagine a more extreme example of government intrusion into the private matters of individual citizens.”

    After hearing arguments from both sides on October 17, Judge Eagles issued her order to ensure that key provisions of the law would not go into effect as scheduled on October 26 during ongoing litigation of the underlying constitutional questions. In granting the preliminary injunction, Judge Eagles concluded that the plaintiffs were likely to succeed on their First Amendment claims that key provisions of the law violate doctors’ free speech rights and that allowing the law to go into effect would inflict irreparable harm on health care providers.

    “If the ultrasound requirements were put into effect, this law would place doctors in a murky legal situation and inflict unnecessary harm on women,” said Katy Parker, Legal Director for the ACLU of North Carolina Legal Foundation. “The state should not be using women’s bodies as political pawns, as this law clearly seeks to do. We look forward to continuing our arguments and hope that the court sides with the rights of women and their doctors over the ideological agenda of lawmakers.”

    The new law, which the North Carolina General Assembly passed in July over the veto of Governor Bev Perdue, would require abortion providers to perform an ultrasound and place the image in the woman’s line of sight. The provider would then be required to describe the embryo or fetus in detail and to offer the woman the opportunity to hear the “fetal heart tone.” While the law would allow the woman to avert her eyes and to “refuse to hear,” the provider would still be required to place the images in front of her and describe them in detail. The measure would make no exceptions for women under any circumstances, including cases of rape, incest, or those who receive a tragic diagnosis during pregnancy.

    “The bottom line is, this law would prevent licensed health care providers from providing patients with the highest quality and most compassionate health care based on their individual needs,” said Melissa Reed, Vice President for Public Policy at Planned Parenthood Health Systems, Inc., one of the plaintiffs in the lawsuit. “Today the court stood on the side of women and health care providers who are faced with personal, private and very complicated medical decisions every day.”

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    The new law, which the North Carolina General Assembly passed in July over the veto of Governor Bev Perdue
    Most of our state government is owned by Art Pope, a hardcore conservative. Guy is sleazy as they come.

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    Jesus, they really wanted a woman to sit through all that, even if they are literally screaming and going "Nanana can't hear you!!". What the fuck is wrong with North Carolina...

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    I think its worth pointing for anyone who advocates for the statist supplementation and interference in healthcare, then you have no right to complain if (when) religionists justifiably start to tell you how they want they're money spent to provide it.

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    unfortunately i live in mississippi. i've devoted 1 night a week for the past month or so to do phone banking to try to get voters to vote no on 26.



    Fuck mississippi

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celeste View Post
    Well, this is hilarious! I hope they outlaw oral sex, and not cumming into a lady's vagina next. Also, woman's rights? What are those? Lobotomize those baby makers, for the good of the faith and humanity's eternal soul!
    And so the world of Tleilax was created.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gwynplaine View Post
    I think its worth pointing for anyone who advocates for the statist supplementation and interference in healthcare, then you have no right to complain if (when) religionists justifiably start to tell you how they want they're money spent to provide it.
    What

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    Quote Originally Posted by Correction View Post
    What
    Honestly, I've been saying that out loud almost every time I see this guy post lately.

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    Well if the right wants to ban birth control that must mean the left wants to force birth control.

    It's called logic guys, try to keep up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gwynplaine View Post
    I think its worth pointing for anyone who advocates for the statist supplementation and interference in healthcare, then you have no right to complain if (when) religionists justifiably start to tell you how they want they're money spent to provide it.
    Shut the fuck up

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gwynplaine View Post
    I think its worth pointing out to anyone who advocates government interference in health care that you have no right to complain if (when) people of faith tell you how they want their tax dollars spent.
    I think that's the general point he was trying to get across, which I disagree with completely since I pay just as much in taxes as Joe Church next door by the way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vandole View Post
    unfortunately i live in mississippi
    Sorry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaybar View Post
    And so the world of Tleilax was created.
    I just spit my drink all over my laptop ^^; luckily I've got a plastic cover over the keys, so it's easy enough to clean...

    Only picture I could find... the tanks don't seem to be a popular subject for fanart...

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    I know what i'm investing in if this law passes.

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    I thouroughly hope that God exists and created the bible to separate the morons from the smart people, and that all bible thumpers are banned to hell since Heaven is a VIP club for intelligent and chill people that God can tolerate.

    Think about it; if I named something Heaven, I would actually make it Heaven by banning all the bible thumpers. Am I the only one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uzor View Post
    I thouroughly hope that God exists and created the bible to separate the morons from the smart people, and that all bible thumpers are banned to hell since Heaven is a VIP club for intelligent and chill people that God can tolerate.

    Think about it; if I named something Heaven, I would actually make it Heaven by banning all the bible thumpers. Am I the only one?
    That would be the best troll of all existence.

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    if it passes i will be disappointed with humanity but also go on a fuckery tour of mississipi fuck spelling that word

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    The thing I've never understood about anti-abortion people is that most of them keep touting the line about how sex has to have consequences, as if having a baby is bad, which means babies are being used as punishment. I don't want to think that babies are bad and punishment. I would rather think they are good.

    I also never understood the line about people being upset about women who go for multiple abortions as if abortion was an easy, convenient birth control method. That these women should be stopped after their third or fourth abortion and made to have the baby. Anyone who relies on 3-4 abortions instead of using birth control is probably someone who should not be breeding and therefore should continue to get abortions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aduidarnenye View Post
    The thing I've never understood about anti-abortion people is that most of them keep touting the line about how sex has to have consequences, as if having a baby is bad, which means babies are being used as punishment. I don't want to think that babies are bad and punishment. I would rather think they are good.

    I also never understood the line about people being upset about women who go for multiple abortions as if abortion was an easy, convenient birth control method. That these women should be stopped after their third or fourth abortion and made to have the baby. Anyone who relies on 3-4 abortions instead of using birth control is probably someone who should not be breeding and therefore should continue to get abortions.
    I'm still trying to wrap my head around the whole "Sex is bad" thing. From where I'm standing, sex is pretty good. Maybe these people just have terrible, unfulfilling sex and don't know how awesome it is!

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