Random Question Thread XXIV: #Occupy the RQT

[VZX01]

I would say annihlator changes rngs versatility. Sure it still just DDs... but it can go all out from the start and never draw hate. Otherwise rng tends to deal sucky dmg and/or die alot lol

VWNM is probably the only place where if you go RNG, you are worth to have. But once you nom Gnostic's drink full time, you can probably DD fine by spamming Jishnu's. At least; In my case, it has been like that.
Once they develop an event where RNG is useful but is hate-bound DD job, then Annihilator will definitely get its trophy back again.

Also Bravura... I think it makes WAR more tankier than non-Bravura WAR. Or this is a case that's needless to say like Aegis.

[Kalasin]

Anyone have a perfect Last Stand build for RNG in mind?

Lost on last page~

[noodles355]

Where did retaliation come from? I said restraint.

It was a typo. Concidering I talked about the effects of Restrain (5 out of 10 minutes, only affecting WS dmg), I would have thought that would be fairly obvious.

How the fuck does the loss of 4% Crit Damage and 3Str make WS Damage drop from 3603~ to 3098? I don't believe your numbers.

Also, why does restraint being up have anything to do with your number of rounds to WS? I fail to see how Restraint has any effect on anything apart from the 1%~ WSDamage loss from attacking on average 1~ round less per WS.

Also, as mentioned, you keep citing the "perfect" 6hit, but yet are comparing it to a 5hit that I busted out in 5minutes that has a lot of room for improvment. Do I need to point out the flaw there? To compare the effectiveness of a 6hit and 5hit Ukonvasara, you should compare the best possible setup for both against each other. You should also compare an more accessible average 6hit and 5hit, as there are a lot of ukonvasaras and not all of them will have perfect gear available to them (yet).
At the moment, you comparing your perfect 6hit against a quickly thrown together 5hit is basically like saying "Thf with perfect gear > War with average gear. Therefor Thf > War". A stupid argument obviously.

[Kurp]

Are Masamune and Caladbolg 85 or even 90 worth making at this point assuming no plans to take them to 95+? I have the 99 TP Bonus GKT and from what I gather the 99 OAT Great Sword is pretty beastly and looks easy other than the massive Krabkatoa annoyance.

[Khajit]

What would the hQ % on a cursed cap-1 be? I'm considering just buying the mats and paying a bonecrafter a fee if noone i know with BC100+ is online.

[shaggnix]

for weaponskills with non-str mods, i know str still figures into the equation in a few places. how prominent is str compared to the WS mods in these cases? WS i have in mind is gierskogul (sorry to bring it up again), 60% agi, how should i balance str/agi in a build for this? only wondering due to the killshots needed for magian trials, so i'm not looking for a hardcore build that requires much time/investment, but if i can get the numbers a little higher for little effort it'd be worth it to not leave a mob @ .5% hp.

also, how bad are alky bracelets affecting my crit rate? is it worth getting a few less str and not losing dex to alkys?

[Bleublood]

Does anybody have lag inside their moghouse? In terms of opening things like your Mog safe, locker, satchel, sack? Because every time I try to open one of those the game stalls and takes a second to open it. This happens on both of my computers (Desktop and laptop). Any way to stop this?

[Raen Ryong]

for weaponskills with non-str mods, i know str still figures into the equation in a few places. how prominent is str compared to the WS mods in these cases? WS i have in mind is gierskogul (sorry to bring it up again), 60% agi, how should i balance str/agi in a build for this? only wondering due to the killshots needed for magian trials, so i'm not looking for a hardcore build that requires much time/investment, but if i can get the numbers a little higher for little effort it'd be worth it to not leave a mob @ .5% hp.

also, how bad are alky bracelets affecting my crit rate? is it worth getting a few less str and not losing dex to alkys?

STR is roughly equivalent to a 29%~30% "mod" for purposes of comparison (fSTR uncapped), plus adding Attack. 1AGI ~= 2STR, therefore. If you are fighting trash mobs for the sake of magians, you will presumably have good ratio and fSTR so STR is devalued further (and almost to 0 if fSTR becomes capped, which is possible).

Geirskogul cannot crit naturally unless the description given on wiki is wrong.

[grevenilvec75]

for weaponskills with non-str mods, i know str still figures into the equation in a few places. how prominent is str compared to the WS mods in these cases? WS i have in mind is gierskogul (sorry to bring it up again), 60% agi, how should i balance str/agi in a build for this? only wondering due to the killshots needed for magian trials, so i'm not looking for a hardcore build that requires much time/investment, but if i can get the numbers a little higher for little effort it'd be worth it to not leave a mob @ .5% hp.

General rule of thumb:
WS Base Damage = floor(( Weapon Base Damage + fSTR + WSC ) * fTP)
WS Damage = WS Base Damage * pDIF

(relevant parts taken from bgwiki)
melee attack needs roughly 4~6 STR to increase fSTR value by 1

This means ~4 STR = 1 base dmg
also for a 60% agi mod WS, 1AGI = .6 base damage ( this is a simplification, it's really WSC * alpha, so .6*.85=.51 (assuming lvl 99))


I highly suggest you read these pages and get a fuller idea of what's going on:

https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Weapon_Skill_Damage
https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/FSTR

[VZX01]

for weaponskills with non-str mods, i know str still figures into the equation in a few places. how prominent is str compared to the WS mods in these cases? WS i have in mind is gierskogul (sorry to bring it up again), 60% agi, how should i balance str/agi in a build for this? only wondering due to the killshots needed for magian trials, so i'm not looking for a hardcore build that requires much time/investment, but if i can get the numbers a little higher for little effort it'd be worth it to not leave a mob @ .5% hp.

also, how bad are alky bracelets affecting my crit rate? is it worth getting a few less str and not losing dex to alkys?

For every problem like this, reduce it to X attack vs Y base damage problem. compare X/total attack with Y/total base damage
if the prior won, then go with attack option, etc.

[Skeelo]

for weaponskills with non-str mods, i know str still figures into the equation in a few places. how prominent is str compared to the WS mods in these cases? WS i have in mind is gierskogul (sorry to bring it up again), 60% agi, how should i balance str/agi in a build for this? only wondering due to the killshots needed for magian trials, so i'm not looking for a hardcore build that requires much time/investment, but if i can get the numbers a little higher for little effort it'd be worth it to not leave a mob @ .5% hp.

also, how bad are alky bracelets affecting my crit rate? is it worth getting a few less str and not losing dex to alkys?

Just finished Gungnir and trials. Did all of them in abyssea and did apoc/RR/GH(for AGI). Used my sonic thrust build which consists of full str but just switch to snow gorget/belt and was killing things from 30% most the time. 25% is almost guaranteed kill unless you miss first hit but hit double attack.

BTW did kon for lizards, lathein frogs for aquans, mis detectors for arcana, lathein bees for vermin, and attowha worms for amorphs. Went really fast that way.

[EjinCaitsith]

How the fuck does the loss of 4% Crit Damage and 3Str make WS Damage drop from 3603~ to 3098? I don't believe your numbers.

Also, why does restraint being up have anything to do with your number of rounds to WS? I fail to see how Restraint has any effect on anything apart from the 1%~ WSDamage loss from attacking on average 1~ round less per WS..

I said in addition the the other stats you lose using 5hit. Did you know there's a bonus on ravager's mufflers +2 that boosts restraint? With an average rounds to WS of 4.7 that's at least a 4-5% boost to WSDMG over what not using +2 would give(assuming the restraint nerf cut bonus per hit in half).

I'm not really sure why you're shifting the burden of proof on me to make a perfect 5hit set, I simply compared the set you proposed and informed you/others it wasn't as good as current 6hit. I'll stop here, though. Have fun with your 5hit.

[Fwahm]

Was it ever concluded whether maxing out blue alignment increases your chance of getting rare items from VW?

I assume it does, but I remember people being unsure because you can only get a max of 1 "good" item per run, and people didn't know if only the first slot could give a good item, or if the good item is auto sorted to the top.

[Kipling]

Anyone have a good autoexec thing for THF? I thought I remember it being just a .txt file you dropped in the folder, can't seem to find anything. Just trying to make it do basic stuff like keep my SA/TA on until it is used and etc. Or is it something I add into spellcast?

[drwaffles]

Haven't really kept up with the new WS testing, so please don't hate me for asking: are Shijin Spiral and Blade: Shun worth getting if I already have Verethragna and Kannagi? And if so, under what circumstances are they useful? Thanks.

[Zirk]

I can't figure out how to get Mogenhancement: Windurstian Conquest with the following items, I think the wiki must be wrong about some of the aura strengths.

Windurstian Flag
Hume M Mannequin
9-Drawer Almirah
Yellow 9-Drawer Almirah
White 9-Drawer Almirah
Green 9-Drawer Almirah
Green 9-Drawer Almirah

[fantasticdan]

Are cobalt cells worth using?

[noodles355]

I said in addition the the other stats you lose using 5hit. Did you know there's a bonus on ravager's mufflers +2 that boosts restraint? With an average rounds to WS of 4.7 that's at least a 4-5% boost to WSDMG

50% of the time. For a 2~% loss in WS damge total, added to the 1.5% (average of 1% restraint down, 2% up) lost from one less swing to 100TP, for about 3.5% loss in WS damage.

You still have failed to mention how the hell 4% Crit and 3Str makes your WS number drop from 3600 to 3100. Maybe that might be a cue that something in your calulations is wrong, you should re-evaluate it, because you might be wrong.

I'll stop here, though.

What, because you can't actually answer my responses questioning your data?
It kind of amazes me, concidering how popular a job war is, that there is so little discussion on the merits of a 6hit and 5hit, what with 5hit being much more realistic now.

[cdgreg]

Are cobalt cells worth using?

This guys question summed your "answer" up

Was it ever concluded whether maxing out blue alignment increases your chance of getting rare items from VW?

I assume it does, but I remember people being unsure because you can only get a max of 1 "good" item per run, and people didn't know if only the first slot could give a good item, or if the good item is auto sorted to the top.

[fantasticdan]

This guys question summed your "answer" up

How so? He's basically asking the same thing as me.