Random Question Thread XXIV: #Occupy the RQT

[Neisan]

I used a brew for the first time today and was gonna try an elemental ws, and im wondering if i was missing something when my sunburst only did 500-ish? Mob was shinryu, according to ffxiclopedia he isnt strong against light/dark. Is there something else to consider?

Atmas? Also Earth crusher is better than sunburst (no matter what I did it was pretty useless, I'm honestly not surprised it did so little) with brew if you don't have anything better. I typically stick to newer magical weaponskills if at all possible.

Even being strong to light/dark you can still kill him with Sanguine Blade. Or a lot of stuff really, it just helps to pick more efficient weaponskills.

[dasva]

Sunburst has to stat modifiers...

[Airenn]

Artemis Medal

BG Wiki No info

FFXIAH says Full Moon Gives 12MAB

Wiki says full moon gives 10MAB

Which is truth!

[Caerloc]

Atmas? Also Earth crusher is better than sunburst (no matter what I did it was pretty useless, I'm honestly not surprised it did so little) with brew if you don't have anything better. I typically stick to newer magical weaponskills if at all possible.

Even being strong to light/dark you can still kill him with Sanguine Blade. Or a lot of stuff really, it just helps to pick more efficient weaponskills.

My only melee job at 99 is mnk, so i dont really have a bag full of options. I ended up banging him to death with ascetics fury, but i guess i will try earth crusher.

[Radec]

That doesn't work when I'm comparing Corus/STR to STR/STR

Add a "OffhandSTRtoCorus" weapon with all the str stats and 5crit

[Zanark]

What does Marcato do?

[Jimothy]

Artemis Medal

BG Wiki No info

FFXIAH says Full Moon Gives 12MAB

Wiki says full moon gives 10MAB

Which is truth!

Original testing here http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/958...8incomplete%29 had 12 MAB but testing was incomplete/incorrect, later in the thread shown as 10, as well as here http://tuufless.blogspot.com/2010/08...mis-medal.html more complete testing, even with a fancy diagram!

[Airenn]

Thank you very much!

2 is still better than Stoi during Full Moon, so I'll keep it, but eh wish it was 12!

[Jimothy]

I have one but I'm too lazy to bring gear for a time period that doesn't have a UI icon handy.

[Radec]

What does Marcato do?

50% of the soul voice bonus for the next song

[Phoenyx]

do all the Relic gear +2 ability got and upgrade? or only the ones that are shown on the icon?
in particular i'm wondering about the Mnk Feet+2, thinking of getting it for counterstance for my mnk, tanking some apademaks atm, and later will need to kill Ice wyrm for lvl 90 emp Gun, GK, Gswd...

Info on Relic +2: https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Category:Relic_Armor_%2B2

[Midnightjade]

Fastest way to get Ulhuadshi pop items solo as a BST? Farm gold chests on entozoons with Primal Rend spam? Or are Pallid Percy and Amun (pop NMs) soloable? They look like a pain in the neck due to draw-in and Mud Stream, and Petro Gaze respectively.

Alternate would be to grab a party for Ulhuadshi and go farm multiple pop sets first but I'd like to have at least one set to start.

Thanks!

[Isiolia]

Farming gold crates there likely isn't too efficient if you're only after that, since there'd be so many other possible KIs you wouldn't need. If you want pop sets for other NMs too, then perhaps. Then again, given your lousy options for proc'ing red on BST...

You'd likely be better off trying to go with a group and just hitting the NMs you need (Amun is a timed pop though :/). If you're only after it for +2 upgrades, then also watch for groups killing it, since if they're been farming fangs for a bit there's a fair chance they're capped on Coins of Vision and would let you take them or sell them to you cheap.

[noodles355]

Bumping my tons of questions. If even one or two could be answered I'd appreciate it.

If I recall, 5hit on 492 takes a lot of sacrifices, and is only really decent with Regain Moonshade. Standard 6hit should be
AF3+2/Rancor/Dragonkin/Brutal
AF3+2/Aces/Blitz/Rajas
Atheling/Bullwhip/Calmecac/AF3+2.

You don't need any STP sacrifices with 6hit either, so for Drakesbane you could look at:
Twilight/Rancor/Str earring/Brutal
AF3+2/Crit dmg augment Heca+1/pyrosoul/pyrosoul
Atheling/Windbuffet? Or Anguinus/Warwolf/AF3+2/Augment Heca+1

Stardiver, something like
Twilight/Justicars/Str earring/Brutal
Ares/AF3+2/Pyrosoul/Pyrosoul
Atheling/Windbuffet? Or Anguinus/Warwolf/Ogiers? or AF3+2 or Avant+1/Augment Heca+1

Geirskogul, eh beats me. Maybe something like:
Twilight/Justicars/agi earring/Brutal
Twilight/Af3+2/stormsoul/stormsoul
Atheling/Windbuffet? or Crudelis/Ogiers/Avant+1 or Augment Heca+1

[Cream Soda]

Icelands vs CoP for mnk/dnc solo coin farming?

And if it's CoP, do i go in starting w/ subjob or having to earn it (and if the latter, how feasible is that w/ only chakra as a source of healing and no shadows?)

[Midnightjade]

Farming gold crates there likely isn't too efficient if you're only after that, since there'd be so many other possible KIs you wouldn't need. If you want pop sets for other NMs too, then perhaps. Then again, given your lousy options for proc'ing red on BST...

You'd likely be better off trying to go with a group and just hitting the NMs you need (Amun is a timed pop though :/). If you're only after it for +2 upgrades, then also watch for groups killing it, since if they're been farming fangs for a bit there's a fair chance they're capped on Coins of Vision and would let you take them or sell them to you cheap.

Thanks, I might do that. I got a couple of BRD AF+1 items that way back in the day - waited in the lobby for JP tarus coming through to manaburn Apollyon NW. BRD would never drop for us - always got RDM.

[shaggnix]

Icelands vs CoP for mnk/dnc solo coin farming?

And if it's CoP, do i go in starting w/ subjob or having to earn it (and if the latter, how feasible is that w/ only chakra as a source of healing and no shadows?)

you'll get more currency in dreamzones, and in ice zones mob job determines the proc so you'll be trying to pick off the JA proc mobs and stuck with links a lot that are either tougher to proc (WS) or impossible for mnk/dnc (magic). the only reason i'd consider ice zones is if you want the forgotten items that drop there, but then you'd probably still do better in tav if you have access.

when you enter a dreamzone it asks if you want to enter w/ your sub locked or unlocked. if you enter locked you can unlock it at the somnial threshhold at entrance. if you enter unlocked you can not lock it after the fact. the only thing a locked sub gets you is a chance at white procs, which guarantees a 100 piece. proc rate on white is super low tho, like 1%~, and is pretty much for dnc onry. i'm sure you already knew at least half of what i said here, but i just have this thing about over explaining everything.....

[noodles355]

Trying to math out Cor TP setup, based on what Miser's Roll I get. Looking at /War in this instance.
First things first:
Ideal TP setup when STP is irrelevant? I'm currently using this:
AF3+2/PCC/Clearview/Volley
AF3+2/AF2+1/Mermans/Mermans
AF3/Impulse/AF3+2/AF3+2
Upgrading hands to +2 when I can (Alrunas dont exist).

However, was wondering would it be better to swap in Rancor Collar and AF3+2 hands, and maybe Loki's Kaftan aswell? You'd be looking at +10% Crit rate and 5% Crit damage then, trading off Ranged Accuracy mostly.

Second part of post is about /war TP setups based on miser numbers. Bit wall o' textish, so spoilering.

Spoiler: show

Note: Vulcan's Staff, Rose Strap and Armageddon in all cases.

Outside of Voidwatch (Coercion), these are the STP amounts I need to 4hit armageddon with Misers Roll:
VIII (13) - 38STP
IX (15) - 34STP
X (17) - 31STP
V (20) - 25STP
XI (25) - 14STP

The max I can get without /sam appears to be 36 (Rose Strap, Houyi, Volley, Loki's, Hoard, Rajas, Oneiros, AF3+2 legs). I could farm the Praeda hands/feet for STP+5 also.
The question is, at what point do the TP phase gains from 5hitting outweigh 4hitting? Or don't they? Assuming the Af3 hand/rancor/loki setup mentioned above is best damage,
To 4hit the VIII Misers, I'd need:
AF3+2/Rancor/Clearview/Volley
Loki's/Praeda/Horde/Rajas
AF3/Oneiros/AF3+2/Praeda

I basically lose 36~ Racc and 5% Crit in exchange for 19~ Ratt and dropping from 5>4 hit. This is non-coercion at the moment, so outside voidwatch. At 99, I shouldn't be needing that 30-odd racc outside voidwatch I'm guessing. If that's worthwhile, then all the other misers roll tiers will be as well, as they'll all be trading off STP for damage stats.

Enter voidwatch, and these are STP requiements for 3hit.
VIII (33) - 47STP
IX (35) - 41STP
X (37) - 35STP
V (40) - 26STP
XI (45) - 11STP

It's impossible to 3hit on a VIII, however I can 3hit a IX roll with:
AF3+2/Hyoui/Clearview/Volley
Loki's/Praeda/Horde/Rajas
AF3/Oneiros/AF3+2/Praeda
This loses 10% Crit and about 36~ Acc. However, this is voidwatch, where Racc will actually matter. I was using Sushi and had confidently capped Racc against Jeuno T3-5 and Zilart T3, but knowing it was likely overkill, I'd also be interested in changing to Pot-Au-Feu or RCBs when I can.

I'm unconvinced in that losing all that racc and crit would pull ahead in voidwatch, especially if I stop eating sushi. Thoughts?

For X roll, the set is essentially the same except I can swap out the Praeda Set for AF3+2 hands/feet for +10~ Racc and +5Crit, but losing 10ratt, or Oneiros/Houyi > Rancor/Impulse for +5Racc +3Snapshot +5Crit, but losing 9ratt
Similar question - in voidwatch, do you think it's worth it? Still losing 26-31~ Racc on 5% Crit.

For V roll, 26STP is much more reasonable. Rose, Loki's, Volley, Rajas and AF3+2 legs do this. The set isn't dissimilar from the set I was talking about at start of post. I'm confident this is worth it. XI roll 3hits naturally with just rose strap and AF3+2 legs, but it's impossible to 2hit it.

I can fudge around my QD set, and make multiple versions as well. Can always use Schultzen to help with some of the higher STP requirement times.

So, thoughts? I'm thinking I'll 4hit every Misers number outside voidwatch. Inside, thinking 3hit V and XI, but 4hit the rest. The different setups are based around keeping solid damage during WS. Last Stand makes no sacrifices, and Wildfire only swaps Mirke to Loki, which is a minimal loss anyway. Both WS have same STP totals too.

[Alvein]

What should I use my battle trophies for if I don't have WHM leveled? I have NIN, DRG, WAR, BLM, RDM, DNC, THF. I've been looking for a piece on the wiki that would have a use with no success.

[Soho]

What should I use my battle trophies for if I don't have WHM leveled? I have NIN, DRG, WAR, BLM, RDM, DNC, THF. I've been looking for a piece on the wiki that would have a use with no success.

Back when I looked into this, I seem to remember there being only 4 "good" pieces.
1. WHM Body (Cure Potency/Refresh)
2. DRG Legs (4% Haste)
3. PLD Body (Fast Cast)
4. RNG/COR Body (Snapshot)