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  1. #821
    Ridill
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaisha View Post
    Any recommended camps to burn aquan mobs that isn't typically contested?

    Crabs in Misareaux/Grauberg are hard to find without competition for the times I log on, so I've been looking for alternative locations for my BLU to kill 700 of 'em from. Fish in Vunk are 'ok' but it's hard to round them all up with Hross always wandering the camp, that and they seem to lose hate on the pull easily.
    Quote Originally Posted by ronin sparthos View Post
    Mantas @Vunk, Pugils @Graub, Toads @LTP.
    Or go old-school and do crabs in Kuftal Tunnel, Crabs and Pugils in Vunkerl Inlet (S), Crabs in The Boyahda Tree, or Crabs and Pugils in Cape Terrigan. No Atma, but very little chance at competition as well. BLU will wreck them, and you can MP Drainkiss the crabs.

  2. #822
    Relic Shield
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    Damn guys, lots of good ideas I think i'll go the WS DMG+10% and Fusetto method, also didn't realize MAB capped like that, I don't have SCH leveled but I do have a few friends who can help out so i'll probably go /THF than for the TH

  3. #823
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drai View Post
    also didn't realize MAB capped like that
    Doesn't cap, just becomes ineffective compared to other stats. +1 mab at 0 other mab is 1% bonus, +1 mab with brew on (+900mab) is 0.1% bonus.

    Unless you are *just barely* leaving a mob alive after 1/2/3 WS it's not worth gearing for mab usually under brew.
    100000HP Mob, 40000 WS or 40040WS both take 3 shots - mab not worth anything
    100000HP Mob, 49999WS or 50049WS, then it'd shave time, 3WS > 2WS

  4. #824
    HABS SUCK!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Martel View Post
    The question was good AE brew setups. Not Whether or not said set ups are worth it to acquire.
    He specifically stated it was for Brewing Chloris...I was just pointing out that going through all the effort is probably not worth it if thats his only objective. While my next statement may be nitpickey, this is the RQT, not whats better thread.

    It still also varies if he's planning to pop multiples at once or not, with how many people, etc etc.

  5. #825
    Pens win! Pens Win!!! PENS WIN!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BruHaus View Post
    theres absolutely no MAB pieces for body/back/feet/hands/ammo slots for DNC :/ unless you get lucky augmenting stuff in FoV lol. Genesis Locket for neck works if you can get one, otherwise Artemis' Medal is typically best. you could also add double MAB+1~3 Demon's Rings. Denali Kecks for legs, and if you can find a afford a novio, grab that too! for waist there's Furin Obi, otherwise you could attempt getting lucky with MAB+2 on MMM belts <.<
    ACP body with MAB. I have one cause of QD for COR and use it for edge on dnc, nin, thf.

  6. #826
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    DNC can just solo Chloris btw with holy waters.

  7. #827
    Ridill
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jornna View Post
    ACP body with MAB. I have one cause of QD for COR and use it for edge on dnc, nin, thf.
    That is an interesting idea. Can the final ACP fight be two-boxed yet? If so, what would be the best combination of WAR, RDM, DRK (lol), SMN, or THF (character 1) and WHM, BRD, BLU, SCH, or BLM (character 2) to do it?

  8. #828
    A. Body
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    oh, forgot to ask last time around, DNC merits? haste samba seems like a given so i maxed that out already, what else is good?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moridam View Post
    oh, forgot to ask last time around, DNC merits? haste samba seems like a given so i maxed that out already, what else is good?
    5 reverse

    1 saber
    1 fan
    2 nfr (to cover missed steps, presto miss hit nfr is 5, presto hit miss nfr is 5)

    rest depends on how you use dnc. Lots of solo/tanking, Closed position's eva is nice, as is 2/5 in fan so can prevent it dropping for a second between casts.

    I have

    1saber
    1fan
    5nfr
    3cp

    And I use the nfr as a free meditate when not fighting, and for climatic flourishes when fighting (presto miss hit clim nfr, or presto hit miss clim nfr)

  10. #830
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    Is hand to hand skill really skill *.11, or skill/9 (both are very similar.) Anybody ever test this?

  11. #831
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mojo View Post
    Is hand to hand skill really skill *.11, or skill/9 (both are very similar.) Anybody ever test this?
    Thats pretty easy to check if you have time. Just go and try with 396 skill it would be 47 for /9 and 46 for *0.11

  12. #832
    I enjoy tapping my sisters fine ass
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    3 questions
    1) what is the hit ratio of 2-4 Weapons ?
    2) what order is DA TA OA+ applied ?
    3) which off hand is best for gulter and any math to support it?

  13. #833
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbobsonofgod View Post
    3 questions
    1) what is the hit ratio of 2-4 Weapons ?
    2) what order is DA TA OA+ applied ?
    3) which off hand is best for gulter and any math to support it?
    1) Most ppl believe for 40 30 20 10 I think but correct em if im wrong
    2) this one im sure its TA > DA > OA+
    3) no idea

  14. #834
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbobsonofgod View Post
    3 questions
    1) what is the hit ratio of 2-4 Weapons ?
    2) what order is DA TA OA+ applied ?
    3) which off hand is best for gulter and any math to support it?
    I did a couple parses awhile back on the Khanda +2 and +3, to see if the hit dist. changed. Not huge samples, about 1000~ attack rounds each. But I got 30/50/15/5 as the dist. from those. No notable change from going to +3. :/

  15. #835
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taint View Post
    Just got Yoichi yesterday, Quint is a beast, WS delay is a bitch though. I was 5hitting so 4/5 procs were instant 100tp. It would be really hard to math out. Even OAT could be good. 60% OAT, 40% Single round with a chance for Zanhasso/DA/TA/QA.....

    SAM/WAR with Masa > Fudo at 300 tp, then Namas spam while getting solid white damage....

    Its my new toy I'm going to play with it and figure out how best to use it.


    Just wanted to follow up with some basic testing.

    Fudo AM gets over written by Namas AM, you can not have both up.

    Namas AM does not get over written by Fudo AM. Pretty sucky since you lose the ODD AM from Fudo either way.

    Found 1 guy with 2-4 GKT and Namas. While he wasn't super useful he did make it sound like WS > TP > WS did not occur often. Quint you can WS > TP > WS with a 4 or 5 hit round, should make it the clear winner at this point.

    Does anyone know the hidden effect on the HQ GKT from Uptala?

  16. #836
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    Justiciars torque or gorget for Fudo?

  17. #837
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    Is Rancor Collar still best neck for Evisceration in abyssea using the standard RR/SS/GH build?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rune View Post
    Justiciars torque or gorget for Fudo?
    Justiciars, gorgets add very little to fudo compared to y/g/k because of its way higher ftp. Also fudo/kaiten don't have the natural att boost y/g/k.

  19. #839
    Hydra
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    Quote Originally Posted by urat View Post
    Is Rancor Collar still best neck for Evisceration in abyssea using the standard RR/SS/GH build?
    With RR/SS/GH and standard WS gear on THF, you'd be at ~95% crit rate on Evis with Rancor Collar, which from the spreadsheet math I'm looking at is still best neck. Rancor still seems to be best until you managed to get crit capped.

    That said, RR/SS/Apoc is higher DPS for THF and DNC if that's what your solely concerned with and has the added benefit of Auto-RR3.

  20. #840
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    Justiciars, gorgets add very little to fudo compared to y/g/k because of its way higher ftp. Also fudo/kaiten don't have the natural att boost y/g/k.
    Thanks for the quick reply!

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