Random Question Thread XXIV: #Occupy the RQT

[Darkmagi]

Oh box step is indeed -% Def? For some reason I always thought it was -10 def per, the more you know etc.

[Byrthnoth]

Oh box step is indeed -% Def? For some reason I always thought it was -10 def per, the more you know etc.

Yeah, it's -5%/-7%/-9%/-11%/-13%

Oops, guess that means we can get -61%! Well, actually probably not. It's probably:
67%*85%*87% = 49.54... = ~-50% Def total maximum

[dasva]

You forgot lightshotting dia III too!!! I didn't pull 66 out of my ass ya know. Also is there any testing that says they are multiplied seperately?


Also might it be maybe possible to QD tourbillion? I know wiki says something about enhancing acid bolts def down... is there any message that lets you know you enhanced stuff? Or just gotta figure it out?

[Darkmagi]

Wasn't QD tested to be unable to enhance dia3/slow2/bio3/para2?

[dasva]

Idk if it was no one updated wikis!

[Byrthnoth]

Unless I missed something, they don't provide any evidence for Light Shot enhancing Dia III. I would be skeptical of it until it gets a Molting Burst test. My COR is level 0 on both accounts, so it won't be me.

[Prothescar]

Byrth if you can go RDM I'll go out on COR and we can do it some time. I obviously can't solo this one.

Two issues though.

1) Not sure if the QD enhancement would carry over
2) Not sure if the dia would overwrite the limule's natural dia despite it being a stronger effect

[Byrthnoth]

Works for me! Molting Burst wipes shadows, right?

[Darkmagi]

Ballista would also work since it's def no?

[Prothescar]

Yeah it wipes shadows. And I don't trust Ballista tbh, too many things can change in there.

[Nightfyre]

Blind:
Light of penance -100

Wait, what?

[Prothescar]

Yeah. Problem is it lasts a maximum of 30 seconds.

Also for those wondering how DEF down is calculated, Defense Down effects are always added to base defense separately, not together.

Add 33% from Tourbillion, it's 33% off of base. Add Dia III after that, it's 15% off of base, not the number after the -33%.

I actually failed to account for this previously, Ageha is 27%, not 30.

[Diddy Kong]

Is there an easy way to skill up Automaton ranged and melee quickly?

[GImpers]

What was the fix for BST pet TP moves not working because of spellcast?

[Taint]

For someone who has already Yoichi completed - if I were to consider a 2nd relic, I'm torn on how useful some of my other choices for relics. Apoc/Aegis/Amano (is Amano even worth it if you already have a Masa?). I also already have Ochain on PLD as well.

The only usefulness I see to Aegis, is for tanking VW NM's - and even then, most DD's end up pulling hate/tanking for a bit anyways. And that's all I can think of for a usage of shield. The other weapons can used for anything else - including VW and perform very well.

Wait until the 99 forms are fully announced and tested.

Amano could pull ahead of Masa finally making it a good choice. Apoc is game changing for DRK. Guttler seems more and more useful as the game ages. Aegis is semi useful but SE has a hard on for temps the null it for the most part. Bravura and mandu both are pretty badass as well.

[Byrthnoth]

Also for those wondering how DEF down is calculated, Defense Down effects are always added to base defense separately, not together.

Add 33% from Tourbillion, it's 33% off of base. Add Dia III after that, it's 15% off of base, not the number after the -33%.

I actually failed to account for this previously, Ageha is 27%, not 30.

Are you sure about this? I really would have expected it to be multiplicative.

[Foldypaws]

Are you sure about this? I really would have expected it to be multiplicative.

Attack boosts are additive, Berserk (+25%) and Stalwart's (+25%) leaves you at +50%, not at +56.25%. I'm pretty sure defense downs work the same way, where a -20% and a -30% leave you at -50%, not -44%.

[Prothescar]

Are you sure about this? I really would have expected it to be multiplicative.

positive

[Byrthnoth]

Well, good to know!

I'm done with Subtle Blow for the moment. If anyone cares, Monk gets Subtle Blow V and NIN already got a gimpy Subtle Blow VI that was so awesome no one noticed it. I'm working my way through the job traits and updating them on bgwiki. I'm not going to cross-post it all here because most people couldn't give two shits about most of the traits. The only consistent trend I'm noticing so far is that traits people like get a gimpy final tier, while traits people don't care about (Hi Occult Acumen) get a full final tier. Tactical Parry is actually kind of nice for DNC and NIN now, but don't tell SE I said that.

[Yugl]

Are there any non-torrent versions of FFXI's updates? I cannot use torrents here, but I want to avoid this 10hr patch DL.