Random Question Thread XXIV: #Occupy the RQT

**dasva** · 2011-11-26 13:38

Originally Posted by Xantavia

Dumb question, but have you checked your key items to make sure you don't already have what you need to go on to the next part?

Yes I've been stuck on this for a couple of months I've checked all the obvious

**dasva** · 2011-11-26 13:52

Can you actually learn thunderbolt from the FOV behemoth? I'm like 0/20 now. That's 20 ones that use it not counting the ones that just wouldn't lol

spider123 · 2011-11-26 13:54

What's the Pitaru-equivalent to Montagna for magic skillups?

**Greatguardian** · 2011-11-26 14:12

Solid gearsets for a recently burned SMN? Excluding any Salvage gear or shit that would require giving up an Expansion reward.

I plan to primarily use the job for Walk of Echoes, because Flux 7 is a punk for anything that doesn't have pets on my server. AF3+2 is easy, I can handle that, but I don't want to run out and get shit like YYRobe if I don't actually need it (since BP timer reduction caps and all that). I don't plan to ever melee on it, so I don't need to worry about those sets.

I tend to write my own XMLs, so in general I should basically be making Idle, Perp, MDT, PDT, Timer Reduction (precast), Skill+ (midcast), HMP, and what else? How different are my sets for Physical and Magical BPs going to be, assuming again that I'm not using any of my Expansion/one-time gear? I don't have any Nashira. Are the hands still necessary at this point? I have most of the relic armor (missing legs and body), should I be trying to snag either piece or are they outdated? I likely won't be bothering with the Relic+2/3 augments for this job for a while. Is Karura Hachigane worth snagging or is it irrelevant at this point?

Also, what G1 merits are people doing? Just phys/magic attack? G2s will be unlocked for VW (just in case) with 4 tossed into Heavenly Strike, I assume.

Edit: I also really don't want to grind out staff trials for SMN. Is having full HQ staves and Soulscourge acceptable? Is there another staff I should be snagging (bar Bahamut's)?

**Dtroyy** · 2011-11-26 14:35

Originally Posted by vagus

Awesome! Thanks for the info. Will this work for enfeebling magic as well?

Yup just silence them and goto town, i skilled ninjutsu dark magic ele enf pretty much everything on them lol

**Buffy** · 2011-11-26 14:51

Originally Posted by dasva

Can you actually learn thunderbolt from the FOV behemoth? I'm like 0/20 now. That's 20 ones that use it not counting the ones that just wouldn't lol

I've been told you can by someone who claimed they learned it from that. I learned it from Platue boss 1/2

**CubsWoo** · 2011-11-26 14:53

What's the best (non-Voidwatch) offhand dagger option for Twashtar for both THF and DNC?

**Kyte** · 2011-11-26 14:58

STR Kila

**dasva** · 2011-11-26 16:55

How much dmg do circle affects add? Bg wiki says 5% which is definitely too low. Other wiki says 15% which seems right but not sure

**Septimus** · 2011-11-26 17:00

Originally Posted by dasva

How much dmg do circle affects add? Bg wiki says 5% which is definitely too low. Other wiki says 15% which seems right but not sure

BGWiki says 5% because Byrth did the math himself.

**dasva** · 2011-11-26 17:21

Well ok but I just did sanguine blade on 2 ghouls and the dmg was 248 and 274 with holy circle... which is a little over 10%. While I didn't control things that well the holy circled one should've had higher int given that one was a mage and the first one was a war. I'll try again with more controlled test later but I got called to pt as I was doing it lol

Also can't see his numbers cause it's spoilered

**Nitrous24** · 2011-11-26 17:27

What are good whm melee sets? I have a 95whm mule for a healer already so i figured i'd level my main's whm strictly melee only (out of boredom mostly). Discounting relic/empy/WoE+2 what are the best clubs? I was thinking the new flash club + str/attack club?? also what are some good sets?
i was thinking of using this as my tp set. Have been unable to find blessed +1 legs atm. Looking for hexa/(w/e the hell the mp regain one is i've not gotten it yet still need the club from nyzul) and any changes you'd suggest to this tp set?

Code:

				<head>Zelus Tiara</head>
				<neck>Prudence Torque</neck>
				<lear>Brutal Earring</lear>
				<rear>Suppanomimi</rear>
				<body>Reverend Mail</body>
				<hands>Blessed Mitts +1</hands>
				<lring>Keen Ring</lring>
				<rring>Rajas Ring</rring>
				<back>Bellicose Mantle</back>
				<waist>Goading Belt</waist>
				<legs>Blessed Trousers</legs>
				<feet>Blessed Pumps +1</feet>

**Byrthnoth** · 2011-11-26 17:27

I tested Arcana and Dragon, but I don't remember bothering with Holy because I assumed they were all the same after that. I'd recommend using undead in Abyssea Attohwa if you want to continue the test, and you might consider switching to Flash Nova.

**dasva** · 2011-11-26 17:32

Sadly I don't have flash nova and don't feel like lvling it up. But I'll try again later with some other mobs more closely controlled

**psykopat** · 2011-11-26 17:46

Hi,

Can Dynamis Lord be defeated at 95 with 5 without 2h ? Which setup ?

With 2h ? Which setup ?

Thx in advance !

**Martel** · 2011-11-26 17:50

A quick Atonement test on 95 PLD.

without holy circle, Capped hate. 300% TP. 750.
with holy circle. Capped hate. 300% TP. 877.

750*1.17=877.5 floored 877.0

So +17%. I could sworn it was +15% at 75...

Does the value of your current killer trait affect the Circle DMG bonus? I read something like that regarding BST, but I thought that was a property of Ferine+2..?

**Darkmagi** · 2011-11-26 17:52

BRD THF WHM + 2 solid DDs, would /nin to avoid terra slash wipe. If you kill too slow, you will need the thf to try and hold the dragon adds. I prefer MNK/NIN as DD, verethragna helps a ton obviously.

**Kamil** · 2011-11-26 17:57

Anyone know the added effect proc rate of Oynos Knife and what kind of haste is it(ja/magic/gear)? Thanks in advance.

**Darkmagi** · 2011-11-26 17:58

15% magic haste, identical to haste spell. No idea on the proc rate though.

**Byrthnoth** · 2011-11-26 17:59

Originally Posted by Martel

A quick Atonement test on 95 PLD.

without holy circle, Capped hate. 300% TP. 750.
with holy circle. Capped hate. 300% TP. 877.

750*1.17=877.5 floored 877.0

So +17%. I could sworn it was +15% at 75...

Does the value of your current killer trait affect the Circle DMG bonus? I read something like that regarding BST, but I thought that was a property of Ferine+2..?

Killer traits typically do not affect your circle bonus, or my test wouldn't have dropped back to 5% when I took Gausape off but left Circle on.

I'm betting they just nerf circle traits from subjobs and circle traits naturally scale with level (or some stat). My tests of BST's natural "Circle" ability showed a 15% damage boost/damage reduction at level 90.

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