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  1. #1641
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    that what i thought but someone in my LS said something about RR/GH/apoc.

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    Dmg wise they are pretty close. However I think SS beats out GH for pure dmg. But GH helps minimize enemy tp gain and gives some evasion which is potentially nice too

  3. #1643
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    One minor point to also consider is that SA/TA obviously force crits for Thf, so in those departments SS will be producing even further gains for Thf.

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    What's a good amount of amber to shoot for when farming for augmented items? Max just seems to get me temps/KI.

    And is there a better way to pearl in craig zones than spamming t1 vnm?

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    Does Obi + BLMaf2 pants + Twilight Cape effect stacks?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diddy Kong View Post
    First off, why the fuck would you use a stormsoul with evisceration? Secondly, the AF3+2 hat isn't a good option when you should be using something like aias or Cuauhtli+1. Also replace your auric with something not suck.
    *thundersoul my bad, always mix the two up, but if you werent the kind of person to automatically try to be as offensive as possible about something you'd probably have realize that I probably meant the dex+7 ring instead of agi+7 ring for a dex modded weaponskill. Or maybe you legitimately took it seriously and was like "yep, stormsoul ring for evisceration, sounds legit bro"

    And according to my parses and calculations, Auric dagger is best offhand for abyssea except for Lux Pugio, unless you are maining twashtar.

    And you didn't actually answer my question. First off I'm 99% sure 12 dex beats 6 dex / 6 Str / 7 skill in abyssea, which basically is 12 dex vs 6 dex+7 skill. But if you honestly think cuau+1 head beats ocel+1, I have one sitting right here I can put on for evisceration.

    But the dps spreadsheet beats out cuau+1 head AND ocel head in abyssea, substantially according to it. So thats why I posted in the first place, I wanted to know if anyone could actually show me which is better with math, since my gut instinct says ocel+1 is better but the spreadsheet says charis+2 is better.

    I'm wondering if maybe the attack+8 on head bumps me just over some small hurdle in game or something that pushes me up another tier of damage, or maybe its the +1% chance of doing double damage the head gives me.

    So just straight up saying "x head is better" does nothing for me, because I'm asking WHY. I already think its better, but I want to know why one would be better than the other.

  7. #1647
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    Non Wildifire COR atmas?

    Inb4 get Wildfire.

  8. #1648
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    After inputting Urat's gears into my dmg calc (DNC95/nin47 without any merits, food, buffs or atmas, eviscerating at 100TP on AuraStatuesLVL84), i can confirm Urat's logic is correct:

    AF3+2 head: MinWSdmg=83, avg=~1320.85, Max=3876
    Ocel+1: 87, 1364.77, 4015
    Cuautli +1: 86, 1365.78, 4020

    But as one will notice: conditions can change results :s

  9. #1649
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    Campaign ops that you lose access to after tally... if you took it before the tally and hav the ops active, but get to the battlefield after the tally, can you still enter? I'm guessing no, but thought I'd ask.

  10. #1650
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratatapa View Post
    Does Obi + BLMaf2 pants + Twilight Cape effect stacks?
    Yeah it does, with all three on it's a 20% increase in total for same day.

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    I actually was wondering how you had Auric winning until I realized you were assuming no outside haste. Still loses to Str Kila even with no outside haste. Oynos assuming no healer also beats it assuming haste proc doesn't take forever.

    In the Setup sheet there's flourishes under the WS, and climactic being active is the only time I have Charis head beating anything. Loses to Aias/Oco/Cuahitl without Climactic being up.

  12. #1652
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alkimi View Post
    Yeah it does, with all three on it's a 20% increase in total for same day.
    ...but there is a cap if i remember correctly, when weather(single or double) + day match, making legs rarely used or something like that ? i don't remember well...

  13. #1653
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    The cap is 35% for the term (not including Twilight Cape or Zodiac Ring iirc).
    * Day = 10%
    * Weather = 10%
    * Double Weather = 25%
    So with Day + Double Weather (like Darksday in Dynamis) you are already at the 35% cap and don't need the pants. There's no real danger of the pants becoming outdated when you gain the full effects of their bonus.

  14. #1654
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    Quote Originally Posted by Galattea View Post
    Non Wildifire COR atmas?

    Inb4 get Wildfire.
    Your options are either Leaden Salute or Evisceration. For Leaden, Cosmos+Ultimate+Hell's Guardian>Beyond>Baying Moon. Sea daughter probably does pretty well too.

    For Evisceration, RR+Apoc+A/O or SS or GH (guessing A/O>SS>GH for pure damage).

  15. #1655
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    Is it possible to switch the game's language (JP to EN) without reinstalling everything? Can you have different language installs on one computer? (of course I have legal copies of both versions).

  16. #1656
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    Quote Originally Posted by urat View Post
    *thundersoul my bad, always mix the two up, but if you werent the kind of person to automatically try to be as offensive as possible about something you'd probably have realize that I probably meant the dex+7 ring instead of agi+7 ring for a dex modded weaponskill. Or maybe you legitimately took it seriously and was like "yep, stormsoul ring for evisceration, sounds legit bro"

    And according to my parses and calculations, Auric dagger is best offhand for abyssea except for Lux Pugio, unless you are maining twashtar.

    And you didn't actually answer my question. First off I'm 99% sure 12 dex beats 6 dex / 6 Str / 7 skill in abyssea, which basically is 12 dex vs 6 dex+7 skill. But if you honestly think cuau+1 head beats ocel+1, I have one sitting right here I can put on for evisceration.

    But the dps spreadsheet beats out cuau+1 head AND ocel head in abyssea, substantially according to it. So thats why I posted in the first place, I wanted to know if anyone could actually show me which is better with math, since my gut instinct says ocel+1 is better but the spreadsheet says charis+2 is better.

    I'm wondering if maybe the attack+8 on head bumps me just over some small hurdle in game or something that pushes me up another tier of damage, or maybe its the +1% chance of doing double damage the head gives me.

    So just straight up saying "x head is better" does nothing for me, because I'm asking WHY. I already think its better, but I want to know why one would be better than the other.
    Considering who you are, no I wouldn't be surprised if you used AGI ring for evisceration. And yes I'm positive cauch+1 will beat ocelomeh, especially if +2 hat is beating it. Because 10.5 attack > 8 attack, in addition to WSC.

  17. #1657
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyte View Post
    Your options are either Leaden Salute or Evisceration. For Leaden, Cosmos+Ultimate+Hell's Guardian>Beyond>Baying Moon. Sea daughter probably does pretty well too.

    For Evisceration, RR+Apoc+A/O or SS or GH (guessing A/O>SS>GH for pure damage).
    I see, what if I was to Ranged Attack and WS (Slugshot per say), just out of curiosity. And also, for someone who was WAR RDM BLU PLD SCH DNC NIN COR, worth dropping Balrahn's Ring and picking up a Jalzahn's ? Keeping in mind that I haven't been playing RDM or SCH a lot and BLU simply doesn't have enough inventory space to carry out nowdays.

    Thanks.

  18. #1658
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    Is BLM/SCH the best at 99 since we get Hailstorm and a full time Klimaform (unless they changed that)? Also are all the Helix spells still available as a sub?

  19. #1659
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    Nvm klimaform is available as a sub lol

  20. #1660
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyte View Post
    Your options are either Leaden Salute or Evisceration. For Leaden, Cosmos+Ultimate+Hell's Guardian>Beyond>Baying Moon. Sea daughter probably does pretty well too.
    I wonder if Beyond would be better than either Hells Guardian or Cosmos. You'd lose 10MAB from HG, but gain +30 Ice affinity on Ice Shot. Totally sucks that Dark/Light dont do damage so you can't do like wildfire's vulcan/fireshot/wildfire with plutos/darkshot/leaden.
    Might even be worth swapping in Razed Ruins for a TP phase dmg boost. RR/Beyond/Ultimate or something. Tbh, after messing about with Rng and Trueflight in abyssea, I was really unimpressed with Leaden Salute. I guess Trueflight gets the benefit of the double-whammy from Beyond.

    Edit: Question. Is the 290/300 skill Archery WS really 3.00ftp (so sayeth otherwiki) on both hits (so sayeth bgwiki) for 6.00ftp total? And if so, why don't more people use it over Sidewinder? Not as if there's a "single hit WS acc boost, can WS in more full str/ratt" excuse because of slug's acc penalty.

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