2011 MLB Offseason Discussion - Rangers choking edition

**Rhinox** · 2012-01-06 15:52

Originally Posted by archibaldcrane

K.

also this body-breakdown stuff is kinda weird considering David Ortiz exists, put up a 4.2 WAR season at age 36 and I'm sure doesn't live nearly as healthy as Prince "I'm the only player to play 162 games last year" Fielder does.

David Ortiz isn't 300 pounds

**pohibaba** · 2012-01-06 15:53

Originally Posted by Rhinox

Yeah let's judge Someone based on 30 games it's not like Rizzo, 22, batted .331 (118-for-356) with 34 doubles, 26 HR and 101 RBI in 93 games for Triple-A Tucson last season.

PCL is a HUGE hitters league. The offensive numbers there are basically meaningless.

**Rhinox** · 2012-01-06 15:53

David Ortiz has also had some health problems.

Have I mentioned he isn't 300lbs?

**archibaldcrane** · 2012-01-06 15:56

Originally Posted by Rhinox

David Ortiz has also had some health problems.

Have I mentioned he isn't 300lbs?

In what universe is Prince Fielder 300 lbs.?

It's just weird to question the durability of the guy who has played in more games than anyone in baseball since 2006. Ortiz was injured frequently even when he was in his 20's.

**Rhinox** · 2012-01-06 16:04

Originally Posted by archibaldcrane

In what universe is Prince Fielder 300 lbs.?

This one.

He's listed at 275.

you're telling me players accurately declare how much they weigh? have you seen him? you do realize teams do not disclose the results of physicals right?

Next you're gonna tell me Drew Brees is 6 foot tall

**Rhinox** · 2012-01-06 16:06

Originally Posted by pohibaba

PCL is a HUGE hitters league. The offensive numbers there are basically meaningless.

they were good indicators for Buster no?

**Rhinox** · 2012-01-06 16:11

look I'm not saying prince is a scrub far from it in fact. I'd love to have prince on the team if we were contending anytime soon.

The other scary part is that whoever signs Prince is gonna have to deal with the fact that the last few years of that deal is guaranteed to be a terrible value which can potentially handcuff a team.

**archibaldcrane** · 2012-01-06 16:55

Originally Posted by Rhinox

you're telling me players accurately declare how much they weigh? have you seen him? you do realize teams do not disclose the results of physicals right?

Prince is a fat fucker, don't get me wrong...but he's only 5'10. It's crazy hard to be 300 lbs. at 5'10".

**Melena** · 2012-01-06 17:33

I'd honestly be amazed if Prince gets anything more then 5 years with maybe 1-2 mutual options that vest if he hits any fairly easy requirements at this point. A month before Pitchers/Catchers report and whose left really with questions at first base?

**Cail** · 2012-01-06 17:51

tampa bay has no 1b and needs another catcher iirc

**Melena** · 2012-01-06 17:53

Tampa would be a great fit for him if it wasn't for that payroll issue.

**Rhinox** · 2012-01-06 17:53

Originally Posted by Cail

tampa bay

lol.

Prince is basically asking for 1/3 of the Rays annual Salary Cap a year.

**Cail** · 2012-01-06 17:56

oh i dont think hes going there. not a all. i just was answering melena's question of who still needs a 1B haha

**Soa** · 2012-01-06 20:25

Originally Posted by archibaldcrane

It's just weird to question the durability of the guy who has played in more games than anyone in baseball since 2006. Ortiz was injured frequently even when he was in his 20's.

I'd like to point out that Ryan Howard played in something like 700 straight games at one point before his injury problems started occurring, so its not out of the question to feel that something similar could happen to Prince. I can't see any NL team giving him more that 5 guaranteed years, and his only realistic AL suitor is Seattle. I still think he'll end up signing with the Washington Boras's after all is said and done.

**archibaldcrane** · 2012-01-06 20:31

Originally Posted by Melena

I'd honestly be amazed if Prince gets anything more then 5 years with maybe 1-2 mutual options that vest if he hits any fairly easy requirements at this point. A month before Pitchers/Catchers report and whose left really with questions at first base?

Spoiler: show

**Bregor** · 2012-01-06 20:42

Originally Posted by Rhinox

I'm so proud. Our little Starlin Castro has been accused of his first rape.

He's growing up right before our eyes!

Ugh

Fucking hell.

Also losing Cashner, not really as fired up about THEO as I was yesterday.

**Rhinox** · 2012-01-06 20:48

Originally Posted by Bregor

Fucking hell.

Also losing Cashner, not really as fired up about THEO as I was yesterday.

YOU SHUT YOUR WHORE MOUTH. HE'S FORGOTTEN MORE BASEBALL THEN WE WILL EVER KNOW.

DONT LISTEN TO HIM THEO WE STILL LOVE YOU.

THEO

**Rhinox** · 2012-01-07 12:17

Originally Posted by Rhinox

Cubs trade for Anthony Rizzo.

If it wasn't clear for retards like rosenthal that we weren't in the prince sweepstakes this p much seals it.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/0...-mariners.html

spoke too soon

**BadKarma** · 2012-01-07 19:33

"The question is whether or not he wants to play in Seattle"

Really, does anyone?

**Cail** · 2012-01-09 13:59

1 hour til the 2012 hall of fame class is announced

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