2011-2012 NBA Thread: The Chris Paul and Dwight Howard sweepstakes

[Dimmauk]

You posted that to support your argument? Hahahaha thanks for making my argument for me.

Yeah, I forgot to post the 2 other PGs career highlights. Sorry.

[Heavencloud]

All arguments for Rose are invalid until he wins a champions hip. As of now, Billups and Parker have proved much much more.

[Heavencloud]

#1 flopper

[Rhinox]

All arguments for Rose are invalid until he wins a champions hip. As of now, Billups and Parker have proved much much more.

So you would take Parker and Billups over rose?

lolol

[Cail]

i saw that last night and was like wtf? love didnt do anything

[Moss]

haven't seen Griffin flop like that before... shit is lame

[Rhinox]

#1 flopper

nah

[Rhinox]

This shit is funny though

[Cail]

[Dimmauk]

This shit is funny though

[Deejay]

I apparently missed the "Knicks don't actually suck" argument here yesterday. Naw son, as a Knicks fan we are garbage right now. I've said it multiple times already, but we are not going anywhere. Denver is playing well enough this season that I can see them possibly advancing in the playoffs 1 round, Knicks are gonna be 1 and done again. We are committed to a coaches system which revolves around needing a good Point Guard, and after getting the F who worked well in this system, we have acquired 1) Melo(another F) 2) Chandler(a great defensive C, but still, come on) and 3) Baron Davis.

Our ball movement right now is atrocious, and we are getting some barely wins against teams we shouldn't be, like the Wizards. I was against trading for Melo for alot of reasons, and it's clear to see why. Our team and bench have been pretty much butchered to acquire him so that he can make more money while we are a shittier team. We actually played better with just Amare before when teams couldn't lock him out. And if they did, all it meant was if we got another roleplayer that actually fit the system we use, we'd have been even better. Instead Amare is actually worse now because the offense has had to slow down to adjust to Melo. I know people hate Amare and shit, but he actually revived the Knicks. That's not hard to do considering how our team has been the last 10 years, but that first half of the season I could actually watch a fucking Knicks game for once in full, cause we looked like a real team. I'm not saying that we could take the Finals pre-Melo, but we'd at least have set ourselves up for something better than we have now.

The Knicks suck right now dj. We had all this cap space and good chances to land players, but we got 2 pieces that do not help the team the way it is now. D'Antoni is for sure getting fired after this season if they are in any way sane, so we can get a different system in place that actually better fits the pieces we have. But the Knicks are garbage, we will find a way I imagine down the stretch as the good teams start getting tired cause of the schedule to prolly go .500, enter the playoffs, and do nothing.

I never said we were a good team, I just said Melo was doing a good job. I am also for the Melo trade simply because our team wouldn't be much better off had we opted to sign him as a free agent. If we can land someone like an Andre Miller or Steve Nash at the mid level, this team would look a lot different next year. I also think Baron Davis can make our line up serviceable enough to win games, but our bench is beyond atrocious and our stagnant offense isn't playing well enough to balance our weaknesses on defense.

The knicks have a lot of holes, I agree, but I still think we can win under D'Antoni's system. We're just a couple role players away.

[Rhinox]

Lol

[Cail]

carlisle sitting down dirk for at least the next 4 games to work on his conditioning..fml

[kisada]

lol really? i just traded for him in another league.

[Rhinox]

How the fuck can your conditioning be bad after 3 + weeks of games?

[Cail]

they were saying his knee might have been acting up last night or whenever their last game was. prolly just an excuse cu his knee hurts or somethin

[Cleverness]

I never said we were a good team, I just said Melo was doing a good job. I am also for the Melo trade simply because our team wouldn't be much better off had we opted to sign him as a free agent. If we can land someone like an Andre Miller or Steve Nash at the mid level, this team would look a lot different next year. I also think Baron Davis can make our line up serviceable enough to win games, but our bench is beyond atrocious and our stagnant offense isn't playing well enough to balance our weaknesses on defense.

The knicks have a lot of holes, I agree, but I still think we can win under D'Antoni's system. We're just a couple role players away.

If we had not signed Melo, the Knicks would have been an actual contender for CP3 this last FA cause we would have had pieces + space to sign him. I like Chandler/CP3/Amare way better than Chandler/Melo/Amare in D'Antoni's sytem. And we don't really have the cap space for role players, we can maybe squeeze Nash in with the mid-level exception since he's prolly willing to take a paycut in his last years. Felton is playing well for the Blazers right now, I'd be surprised if he even wanted to come back.

[Rhinox]

Al Harrington is Carmelo Anthony in six years. Same body type, same shot selection

[kisada]

dirk has been playing pretty hobbled, so it's pretty hard to get up to game speed when you can't really move.

[Buffy]

These day to days are killing me. Rose hasn't played in over a week, too.