2011-2012 NBA Thread: The Chris Paul and Dwight Howard sweepstakes

[Rhinox]

He looked terrible and he singlehandedly gave the Lakers all they could handle in the playoffs. Plenty of players come back from knee surgeries, this isn't the 70's

you guys are idiots

Lol this guy


Kill yourself plz

[Dimmauk]

In order of getting the "good" part of the deal its was Lakers > Rockets >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Hornets.

Plus the Hornets would have had Scola, Odom, and west. One or two of them would have gotten moved again.

[GRT]

He looked terrible and he singlehandedly gave the Lakers all they could handle in the playoffs. Plenty of players come back from knee surgeries, this isn't the 70's

you guys are idiots

lol, no, he cruised through the season with heavy metal chains around his knees, then he played 5 excellent games before obviously breaking down in game 6, and 5 games per playoff does not win you a championship... unless you are a knicks fan

oh wait, you are

[tyven]

David stern axe'ed the CP3 deal o.O

WHAT?!

[Dimmauk]

NBA commissioner David Stern has killed the New Orleans Hornets’ trade of Chris Paul after several owners complained about the league-owned team dealing the All-Star point guard to the Los Angeles Lakers, league sources told Yahoo! Sports.

Some owners pushed Stern to demand that trade be nullified, and the Hornets be made to keep Paul on the roster for the foreseeable future, sources said. A chorus of owners were irate with the belief that the five-month lockout had happened largely to stop big-market teams from leveraging small-market teams for star players pending free agency.

All the players involved in the trade have been told to report to their teams for the start of training camp on Friday.

Before Stern intervened, the Lakers had reached an agreement to acquire Paul in a three-team trade that would have cost them Pau Gasol and Lamar Odom, league sources told Yahoo! Sports.

Under terms of the deal, the Lakers would have sent Gasol to the Rockets. The Hornets would have received Odom, Rockets guards Kevin Martin and Goran Dragic and forward Luis Scola, league sources said.

Houston had also agreed to send a 2012 first-round pick – previously obtained from the Knicks – to New Orleans as part of the package, a source said.

Hornets general manager Dell Demps had informed two of the other finalists for Paul on Thursday evening that he had a deal in place for Paul to go the Lakers, front-office sources said.

Paul had listed the Lakers as one of his preferred destinations, and it became a more clear choice for him on Thursday after the New York Knicks moved to the brink of completing a four-year, $58 million contract for free-agent center Tyson Chandler. The Knicks lost the salary-cap space they would’ve needed to sign Paul this summer, and the Lakers had been pushing hard to close a deal for Paul with Houston and New Orleans.

The Lakers could turn their attention toward using center Andrew Bynum as a trading chip to make a play for Orlando Magic center Dwight Howard.

Orlando will want Pau/Odom more than Bynum/Metta.

[Deejay]

The talent on that team was no where near good enough to compete. They should have been swept based on their roster alone. Going 6 with the defending champions on 1 leg is not impressive to you?

Kill yourself.

[GRT]

again, mixed feelings about the snag, absolutely love cp3 if he can stay healthy

so does it mean CP3 just can't be traded anywhere now because a few owners would be upset wherever he goes?

[Dimmauk]

ReggieEvans30
@CP3 lol

Now that the Magic know what the Lakers are willing to give up, they should get Pau/Odom. LOL

[GRT]

The talent on that team was no where near good enough to compete. They should have been swept based on their roster alone. Going 6 with the defending champions on 1 leg is not impressive to you?

Kill yourself.

the defending champs got swept in round 2, and that's mostly because pau went as soft as he did in round 1

you knicks fans are so oblivious to reason it's like you are... knicks fans

[Gredival]

The talent on that team was no where near good enough to compete. They should have been swept based on their roster alone. Going 6 with the defending champions on 1 leg is not impressive to you?

Kill yourself.

Was it a good deal in the respect they secured a young star to build around? Yes.

Would it improve their immediate championship window? Hell no.

They would need to wait til Artest, Blake, Walton came off contract in order to secure some other pieces around Paul. By then Kobe would be 35/36. And considering people are talking about how Kobe's old now?

The only way this Paul deal worked for the Lakers is if they had some plans already in place to address PF/C (i.e. Howard).

But you claim already that there was no chance in hell of Bynum+Odom+Filler for Howard+Arenas, how the fuck you think the Lakers are gonna swing Bynum+Bad Contracts for Howard + Hedo/Arenas? If you really believe Bosh > Bynum/Odom like you were so proudly proclaiming a few pages back, that already means there was no chance of that happening.

>> Insert full of mad "Get the fuck out of here" and/or "Kill yourself" comments to compensate for any missing logic <<

Oh and once again.

Are you suffering from some sort of mental retardation? Are you aware of how the NBA works? Role players are a dime a dozen. Pau was the only valuable asset you traded away and you essentially got the best PG in the league for him. The team the gets the best player in ANY trade is NEVER the loser.

Knicks with Melo. LOL.

[Deejay]

Knicks with Melo. LOL.

Yeah cause the Nuggets losing in the first round shows they the real winners right? Or is it the fact that one of the guys they got is in China, another will be a FA next year, and another plays 10 minutes a game?

The Knicks must be kicking themselves for being an Eastern conference favorite and the Nuggets are clearly winners getting DANILLO FUCKING GALLINARI
(the only worthwhile player on the roster from the melo trade)

Die.

Here's what you missed because you have the critical reading skills of a five year old: NO PF. NO BACKUP CENTER (plus no actual Center when Bynum inevitably blows out his knee again)

WHO WAS YOUR BACKUP CENTER BEFORE THIS TRADE?

GUYS DON'T MAKE A DEAL FOR ANY SUPERSTARS UNTIL WE FIND A BACKUP CENTER. IT IS IMPERITAVE THAT WE FILL THIS NEED BEFORE WE TRADE FOR ANYONE THAT MAY BE AN MVP FAVORITE NEXT SEASON

Powerforward is the easiest position to fill in the NBA because no one plays center anymore. If you traded for Howard you could literally pick up ANYONE and stick them at the 4.

[Deejay]

the defending champs got swept in round 2, and that's mostly because pau went as soft as he did in round 1

you knicks fans are so oblivious to reason it's like you are... knicks fans

I'm aware your team sucked donkey nuts but the Pau thing never surfaced until the 2nd round. Enough with the excuses faggot, you still had the same roster and a healthy Bynum at that point.

[Azull]

Favorite? Maybe to finish 5th in the conference with about a .500 record?

[Gredival]

Yeah cause the Nuggets losing in the first round shows they won right?

They pushed the Thunder far more than the Knicks pushed the Celtics?

Once again: LOL

The Knicks must be kicking themselves for being an Eastern conference favorite

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

If they are, it's cause they got Chandler (who will be overpriced), not because of how much they gave up in the Melo deal. And even then, you aren't going anywhere with Chandler being the only one trying to play D in _'Antoni's system.

WHO WAS YOUR BACKUP CENTER BEFORE THIS TRADE?

Pau played C when Bynum sat, Lamar comes in as PF. Gasol sits and Bynum goes in. Gasol goes in when Lamar sits.

Derp derp, why don't you watch a Lakers game before you comment about the impact on rotation.

Powerforward is the easiest position to fill in the NBA because no one plays center anymore. If you traded for Howard you could literally pick up ANYONE and stick them at the 4.

Once again, you yourself said we could not get Howard with Bynum+Odom+Filler for Howard+Arenas.

How did you go from believing that would never happen to believing we can do Bynum+Walton/Blake/Artest for Howard+Arenas? Or Bynum for Howard straight up?

>> Insert more full of mad "Get the fuck out of here" and/or "Kill yourself" comments to compensate for any missing logic <<

[GRT]

I'm aware your team sucked donkey nuts but the Pau thing never surfaced until the 2nd round. Enough with the excuses faggot, you still had the same roster and a healthy Bynum at that point.

right, see, i can argue about opinions even with knicks fans... but you'll have to check with a brain surgeon about facts and reality

btw, you still haven't said anything about why you are disregarding paul's health risks

[Deejay]

The Howard deal can happen because THATS WHERE HE WANTS TO PLAY. Bynum may be the best player they can get if the Nets don't pony up Lopez, and if they do, YOU WEREN'T GOING TO GET HOWARD ANYWAY - regardless if you had traded for Paul or not.

What this does is allow Kobe to save his knees and not have to carry the entire offense alone. If you think Kobe is old now, imagine how he'd look in a couple years with no perimeter play makers to help him out and no triangle. LOL

[Deejay]

right, see, i can argue about opinions even with knicks fans... but you'll have to check with a brain surgeon about facts and reality

btw, you still haven't said anything about why you are disregarding paul's health risks

Cp3 played 80 games last year. In his 6 year career, he's only missed 5+ games twice

DISASTER WAITING TO HAPPEN

[GRT]

love how haters loved to point out how kobe broke the triangle all the time, and now they are saying he's gonna just collapse because there's no more triangle

[GRT]

Cp3 played 80 games last year. In his 6 year career, he's only missed 5+ games twice.

WHAT A DISASTER WAITING TO HAPPEN

lol, just gonna quote this so you don't ninja edit after your brain surgery

[Deejay]

love how haters loved to point out how kobe broke the triangle all the time, and now they are saying he's gonna just collapse because there's no more triangle

Have you seen the offense Mike Brown ran in Cleveland?