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    Right but the F-16, while being left in the dust by 5th generation jet fighters, are the cream of the crop of the fourth generation and would annihilate any F-14 or F1 Mirages the Iranians can throw up, particularly because, as you stated, the Israelis benefit from far superior avionics and onboard systems which is what much of aerial combat has evolved into. Onboard electronics detect an enemy plane from two miles away and the pilot launches a sidewinder and records a kill before the bogey is aware it's being tracked. Not to mention the serious personnel advantage Israel has with their pilot corps which is produced by a standard-setting training program.

    And as I stated earlier ground-to-air defense systems will inflict casualties but are ultimately incapable of deterring a determined attack. They've come up on the losing side of nearly every air-to-ground encounter in recent memory, in most of recorded history for that matter.

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    Identifying those locations before entering the airspace is crucial though and something Israel can't do without significant help from other countries. Either our hats in the ring to assist or they take significant losses. To say Israel will immediately wipe the floor with Iran via the air isn't going to be the case.

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    Hay guyz remember when North Korea was going to attack us?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Churchill View Post
    Identifying those locations before entering the airspace is crucial though and something Israel can't do without significant help from other countries. Either our hats in the ring to assist or they take significant losses. To say Israel will immediately wipe the floor with Iran via the air isn't going to be the case.
    I'm sure they have / have had access to our satellite imaging, paved air fields and nuclear research sites are not easily hidden and less easily moved. Israel knows where the targets are, and if they wanted to I think they could cripple Iran's air-force within a 24 hour period given they have twice as many fighters and plane-for-plane punch far harder. Don't imagine they would though, they just want to destroy the sites in a quick in and out strike that's over before the Iranians realize what's happened.

    but i suppose we'll see one way or another soon enough

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    I love waking up to this sort of news. People being assholes, continue on with your day. Blah, what the fuck.

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    Thought I'd just jump in and point out that Iranian SAM's are shit-bad. They do have alot tho.

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    Why does any of that matter? Israel would just cobalt-bomb everyone, since they don't give a shit about what the international community thinks.

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    It's very difficult to care what the international community thinks when you have the biggest bodyguard in town.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kerberoz View Post
    Why does any of that matter? Israel would just cobalt-bomb everyone, since they don't give a shit about what the international community thinks.
    Israel would not use a nuclear weapon unless there was a clear and imminent existential danger. They refrained even when the Egyptians kicked their teeth in in the Sinai and the Syrians were overrunning the Golan Heights.

    They are restrained, however modestly, by the international community and by a United States government that would frown upon them glassing Tehran.

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    Report: Sarkozy calls Netanyahu 'liar'
    Microphones accidently left on after G20 meeting pick up private conversation between US, French presidents. Sarkozy admits he 'can't stand' Israeli premier. Obama: You're fed up with him? I have to deal with him every day!

    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7...145266,00.html

    The conversation then drifted to Netanyahu, at which time Sarkozy declared: "I cannot stand him. He is a liar." According to the report, Obama replied: "You're fed up with him, but I have to deal with him every day!"

    The remark was naturally meant to be said in confidence, but the two leaders' microphones were accidently left on, making the would-be private comment embarrassingly public.

    The communication faux pas went unnoticed for several minutes, during which the conversation between the two heads of state – which quickly reverted to other matters – was all but open to members the press, who were still in possession of headsets provided by the Elysée for the sake of simultaneous translation during the G20 press conference.

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    Wow seriously guys....you're all talking so much shit it's crazy...
    Just read the next sentence clearly -

    Iran openly announced time and time again that they are going to destroy Israel with nuclear power when they finish developing it

    I mean, common...what do you want them to do? Roll over and let themselves be destroyed in 1-2 years time?
    What would the US do if some crazy ass country state that they will destroy it if they got nuclear power?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lolol View Post
    Wow seriously guys....you're all talking so much shit it's crazy...
    Just read the next sentence clearly -

    Iran openly announced time and time again that they are going to destroy Israel with nuclear power when they finish developing it
    nice first post

    got a source?

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    Yep, please cite where Iran said it was going to nuke Israel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lolol View Post
    Wow seriously guys....you're all talking so much shit it's crazy...
    Just read the next sentence clearly -

    Iran openly announced time and time again that they are going to destroy Israel with nuclear power when they finish developing it

    I mean, common...what do you want them to do? Roll over and let themselves be destroyed in 1-2 years time?
    What would the US do if some crazy ass country state that they will destroy it if they got nuclear power?

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    HAY GUYZ MY FIRST POST HERE ALWAYS LOVED BG BUT Y U ALL ASSHOLES WHO SUPPORT TERRISM?

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    Source? Common guys, he seems trustworthy. Just read his sentence clearly. He even bolded it for you.

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    a bolded sentence can not be false. THESE ARE FACTS

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    He's frantically searching the internet RIGHT now.

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    It has to be true. Because 9/11 that's why.

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    I found a biased source that said something similar to ole' lolol's post.... so, yeah he was talking out of his are for the most part

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