Treasure Hunter testing: data gathering

[Alvein]

I've been doing Loki's with a small group lately and we've found that it can drop with a thief enhancement of TH6, 7, or 8.
And we have also killed it with TH and without blue proc and also had it drop. Our experience is that TH is at least as important as a proc when it comes to farming items in Abyssea.
Like yesterday when we were spamming Karkadann, we fought it once without engaging or attacking on thief ( I was healing on whm mule). And we didn't get a single +2 item, no yellow proc. Another fight we did I engaged on thief, but couldn't get an enhancement proc, and we got full +2 drops. Both times we didn't proc yellow (mob can be a pain in the ass to proc yellow on). What I gained is that TH is important, at least as important as having yellow proc jobs on hand.

[Palides]

I've been doing Loki's with a small group lately and we've found that it can drop with a thief enhancement of TH6, 7, or 8.
And we have also killed it with TH and without blue proc and also had it drop. Our experience is that TH is at least as important as a proc when it comes to farming items in Abyssea.
Like yesterday when we were spamming Karkadann, we fought it once without engaging or attacking on thief ( I was healing on whm mule). And we didn't get a single +2 item, no yellow proc. Another fight we did I engaged on thief, but couldn't get an enhancement proc, and we got full +2 drops. Both times we didn't proc yellow (mob can be a pain in the ass to proc yellow on). What I gained is that TH is important, at least as important as having yellow proc jobs on hand.

Until you hit somewhere in the range of N=1500 or above [and the variables are static,] your experience doesn't mean jack. The sample size is too small. Not trying to be rude, but that's just not how statistics work.

[Mojo]

I've been killing Pit Hares today. I know my sample sizes aren't large enough, but it's a start. I had already tested TH0/1/2, today I did some 3/4/5:

TH0: 79/400 kills = 20%
TH1: 162/440 kills = 37%
TH2: 97/200 kills = 49%
TH3: 97/200 kills = 49%
TH4: 53/100 kills = 53%
TH5: 57/100 kills = 57%

These are very easy to test since I can one-shot them with a ranged attack. I'll go to Ghelsba tomorrow and find some new monsters. For now, I'll stay away from multi-drop mobs, 'cause there's clearly something different about the way they drop their items.

Seems like Pit Hares can also drop two items. So you'd need to record that stuff as well. I think the ideal mob for a simple test like what you want would drop only one item about 25~30% of the time (without TH of any kind).

[Zanark]

After reading threw this, I was wondering is TH11 max you can get on a mob? Not counting mog tablets enhancement and outside of abyssea. I've been fighting faf and have been able to get him to TH11 a few times. Also is procing TH random?

[Mojo]

I've gotten TH12 before. Maybe even TH13, I can't remember.

[Alvein]

Until you hit somewhere in the range of N=1500 or above [and the variables are static,] your experience doesn't mean jack. The sample size is too small. Not trying to be rude, but that's just not how statistics work.

Oh I know how statistics work, I was just offering anecdotal evidence, it is another type of data after all.

[Zanark]

Wow TH12 AND TH13? Anyone else ever see this? Or have pics to prove it? Was it in or outside of abyssea?

[Motenten]

I've read claims of up to TH15, and seen pics of 13. Don't have any particular reason to doubt that.

[Palides]

Highest I have seen was 12. No pics, main is on xbox, and I never take SS on mules because usually duo/trioboxing so I use filters.

[Mojo]

The time I got 13 was on Behemoth. I had the idea that there may be some kind of TH evasion -1 effect that THFs have. Thus bringing more THFs to a fight would make it easier to proc TH up higher. Each fight was TH12 I think, and we did get TH13 once. There was some number of THFs, maybe 6 or something, not completely sure, with TH6 base. Really though, I routinely get TH8~9 on it by myself. It could definitely just be more critical hits (we were doing sneak attack/trick attack only for damage.)

[NynJa]

and more importantly: did shank drop?

[Mojo]

yes

[NynJa]

lucky you then lol, I spent an hour beating 2 behemoths down (this is before I lvled thf on one of my mules) with just SA/TA and got hides for my troubles