Level Cap Increase (11/17/2011)

[Kaisha]

I'd rather SE remove all crit-based WS instead of implementing a hexa staff.

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I'd be curious to see the playerbase backlash if they did do the former some day.

[jimbobsonofgod]

pld mnk war drg sch brd whm blm smn which of these should actually be melee'n with a staff that would actually require the development of a "Better damage WS"?

[Greatguardian]

DRG, obviously. Staff shares the same attack animations as Polearm, after all.

[Spira]

It actually doesn't lol

Reason why the SMN 70/75 BP argument keeps getting brought up is because other jobs get new offensive spells and WS. Not necessarily new best damage moves but great new options. SMN hasn't gotten any new physical BPs since 70 and the 3 new magic rage BPs past 75 did little to nothing for us.

[Septimus]

It actually doesn't lol

Reason why the SMN 70/75 BP argument keeps getting brought up is because other jobs get new offensive spells and WS. Not necessarily new best damage moves but great new options. SMN hasn't gotten any new physical BPs since 70 and the 3 new magic rage BPs past 75 did little to nothing for us.

What are you talking about? Carbuncle is now the strongest DD avatar thanks to Holy Mist!

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OK, at least Lunar Bay is a decent dark-based BP. Maybe Night Terror will get an additional effect when paired with Pavor Nocturnus since they mean the same thing.

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OK, here's hoping that Cait Sith and Atomos won't suck.

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There is no hope left.

[Spira]

Well considering Night terror gets a dmg boost when mob is asleep, the combo option is definitely there.
And if you've multiple SMN they can all use Diabolos together to maximize BP dmg on the same sleep

I agree tho, Cait Sith could be our only hope for new physical BP.. He's not very imposing tho lol

[Alkar]

Cait Sith is being compared to Carbuncle... I don't think she'll be able to save the job lol.

[Crab_Cake]

page 1: fucking melee SMNs, I bet they use this as an excuse to melee
page 2: we really need a good staff WS

You melee in Campaign duh. Also they should give SMN Cure I-IV so SMN can sub SMN/SAM or SMN/WAR and DD + Heal.

(Hey <insert summoner that isn't from FF Tactics of FF5> had Cure spells by default usually.)

[Spira]

Give me a whip! I want to summon Bahamut and then cast Meteor ;0

[NynJa]

Cataclysm is pretty good. Aeolian Edge is pretty good. Fell Cleave is pretty good. Sanguine is decent.

New WS's don't have to replace old ones as the "WS to be spammed", especially since a decent portion of those WS's are tied to special weapons. I don't know how happy people with those weapons would be if their WS's got 1-upped, but it's still a possibility that could happen. For everything else, there's nothing wrong with decent utility WS's, which is what most of the new ones have been.

I'd be happy with a elemental h2h ws.

Who uses Cataclysm outside of dark dmg staff trial or brewing? Who uses Aeolian Edge outside of abyssea (inb4 ochain plds in dynamis)? Who uses Fell Cleave outside of abyssea?

Most Mythic WS's dont get used, for the longest times relic WS's werent even used that often...

[Forte]

Caitsith won't be as weak as Carbuncle. The only reason people are comparing the two is that Carbuncle is so damn weak, where as Caitsith should be like Diabolos of Fenrir in power, which is a good thing because we don't have a strong light avatar.

Also since we're talking about staves vs polearms... why do Mithra hold staves wrong? Seriously, they hold them like polearms. Mithra, stop being stupid!

[Strawhat]

Who uses Cataclysm outside of dark dmg staff trial or brewing?

i've seen rmt use cataclysm to burn mandies in altepa, plus some parties doing oa2-4 weapons (10k mob kills, /cry... doing this myself atm)

[Khamsin]

Well considering Night terror gets a dmg boost when mob is asleep, the combo option is definitely there.
And if you've multiple SMN they can all use Diabolos together to maximize BP dmg on the same sleep

I agree tho, Cait Sith could be our only hope for new physical BP.. He's not very imposing tho lol

Catscratch! 8x damage or whatever it was, wouldn't be too bad.

[solracht]

Catscratch! 8x damage or whatever it was, wouldn't be too bad.

I'd reactivate just to see this.

[Julian]

Who uses Cataclysm outside of dark dmg staff trial or brewing? Who uses Aeolian Edge outside of abyssea (inb4 ochain plds in dynamis)? Who uses Fell Cleave outside of abyssea?

Most Mythic WS's dont get used, for the longest times relic WS's werent even used that often...

Implying that people don't do abyssea anymore?

Utility is utility.

[Koyangi]

So anyone have a good idea or is it known when this level cap patch will hit?

[calinz]

So anyone have a good idea or is it known when this level cap patch will hit?

SE can't even keep up with their test server schedule so I doubt they can follow their roadmap from earlier this year either. A wild guess would be mid-december since they do want to get 99 out of the way before the year ends.

[NynJa]

Implying that people don't do abyssea anymore?

Utility is utility.

Then these SMN's can stfu about "PREDCLAWPREDCLAWPREDCLAW", cause utility states sometimes they'll have to use Mountain Buster, or Heavenly Strike or Wind Blade...no?

[Mojo]

WAT NO METEOR

[Counterfeit]

There's still a bonanza going on right?