Dutch build twin towers that only idiots would think look like the WTC exploding.

[Correction]

Title change didn't imply you were offended dawg.

[Kerberoz]

I think we Americans are just jealous that other countries are actually building new urban shit.

[Kohan]

too bad we don't have Lowe's. I'll just have to boycott Home Depot instead... I'm pretty sure they've done something to deserve it anyway, so this should work out just fine.

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/communi...f-2006692.html

http://consumerist.com/2011/12/home-...ow-blower.html

[Yuri-G]

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/communi...f-2006692.html

http://consumerist.com/2011/12/home-...ow-blower.html

well I looked up some dirt on them and it turns out that the American Family Association is boycotting Home Depot for supporting LGBT causes, and...

...that was it. I got nothin'.

[Plow]

just in case you weren't sure if the terrorists had won

[Despain]

...

Seriously?

[Valisk]

It's really a building built to look like the WTC exploding?

You can say it resembles the WTC exploding while denying that it was intended to resemble the WTC exploding.

I saw this on flipboard. Thought it was neat design. Sometimes we're too sensitive.

^This. Those units located on the "clouds" will have some very nice courtyards with incredible views. Usually, the higher up the unit, the more expensive it is. I bet the middle units on the "clouds" are the flagships.

[NynJa]

Anyways, i think you can draw Mohammed all you want. There is a difference though because people end up drawing him as a pig or something vulgar. What you may argue is a free speech issue becomes just a way to insult a religion you harbor bigoted views toward.

When a "religion of peace" immediately rages and threatens to bomb and murder and pillage an entire country because someone drew a picture of Muhammad with a cock in their mouth...I'd do it too if I could draw.

[Elvis]

When a "religion of peace" immediately rages and threatens to bomb and murder and pillage an entire country because someone drew a picture of Muhammad with a cock in their mouth...I'd do it too if I could draw.

Who do you think insists that Islam is a religion of peace?

Al Qaeda? If they do, who fucking cares! It's Al Qaeda!

You are drawing Mohammed to undermine the fundamentalist and violent reactionaries.

I totally 'get' the idea behind the 'Draw Mohammed Day' thing. AFAIK, it's about freedom of expression.

I'm all for it because without it there wouldn't be nun-porn. I love nun-porn.

But drawing Mohammed as a pig crosses the line into bigotry. That's my point.

You're an American, right? Are you attacked by American Muslims? Do you think they are all crypto-Islamists?

Or that even though they proclaim to be 'moderate' - they're unable to be 'moderate' the way a Christian or Jew is 'moderate'?

I think the religion itself is not a religion of peace. That being said, none of the three big religions are religions of peace.

Do you think Lowes was right in giving into the complaints from that right-wing Evangelical Christian group and dropping all advertisements for 'All-American Muslim'?

[Xno Kappa]

Buddhism ftw! Meditate on mountain tops and doesn't afraid of anything.

[archibaldcrane]

That being said, none of the three big religions are religions of peace.

Christianity, Islam, and Hinduism?

Or did you mean Taoism. Confucianism maybe? You must've meant Shinto. Or probably Shikism.

Because calling "Judaism" one of the "big three religions" would be ridiculous.

[Elvis]

Christianity, Islam, and Hinduism?

Or did you mean Taoism. Confucianism maybe? You must've meant Shinto. Or probably Shikism.

Because calling "Judaism" one of the "big three religions" would be ridiculous.

I should have said Abrahamic religions, because that is what I meant. Both Christianity and Judaism are relevant in this context because both are politicized in the US. No one here is concerned with a politicized Hinduism or Taoism.

Christian evangelicalism/the Christian Right/Christian Zionism and mainstream Republican politics overlap. Judaism and Zionism overlap.

That is the context of my statement on 'the big three' but yes, you're right.

[hey]

Who do you think insists that Islam is a religion of peace?

Al Qaeda? If they do, who fucking cares! It's Al Qaeda!

You are drawing Mohammed to undermine the fundamentalist and violent reactionaries.

I totally 'get' the idea behind the 'Draw Mohammed Day' thing. AFAIK, it's about freedom of expression.

I'm all for it because without it there wouldn't be nun-porn. I love nun-porn.

But drawing Mohammed as a pig crosses the line into bigotry. That's my point.

You're an American, right? Are you attacked by American Muslims? Do you think they are all crypto-Islamists?

Or that even though they proclaim to be 'moderate' - they're unable to be 'moderate' the way a Christian or Jew is 'moderate'?

I think the religion itself is not a religion of peace. That being said, none of the three big religions are religions of peace.

Do you think Lowes was right in giving into the complaints from that right-wing Evangelical Christian group and dropping all advertisements for 'All-American Muslim'?

You missed the part where they will bomb people for drawing ANY picture of muhammad, even if he's not a pig, or has dicks in his mouth.

[Elvis]

You missed the part where they will bomb people for drawing ANY picture of muhammad, even if he's not a pig, or has dicks in his mouth.

That is not my point. I already told you that I know 'some' of the people who follow this initiative are doing it for free speech.

My point is that there are Muslim Americans you're alienating under the cover of a 'free speech' issue.

I still don't see how the vulgar pictures are making a 'statement.' In fact, if the people who coordinate this movement promote a picture of Mohammed as a pig, they will have accomplished alienating the average, boring, typical Americans like the rest of us - who happen to be Muslims.

Not the fundies who were already offended.

If you hate Muslims, then why not draw their prophet as a pig?

I wonder if Sam Harris is drawing Mohammed with dicks in his mouth. Or Hitchens. They probably agree with the best-case scenario interpretation of this initiative but I can't imagine them being so low-class.

[Dimmauk]

I wanna make a Mohammed's BBQ in that 911 twin towers. The logo will be a colonel Sanders with a turban.

[Ashmada]

That is not my point. I already told you that I know 'some' of the people who follow this initiative are doing it for free speech.

My point is that there are Muslim Americans you're alienating under the cover of a 'free speech' issue.

I still don't see how the vulgar pictures are making a 'statement.' In fact, if the people who coordinate this movement promote a picture of Mohammed as a pig, they will have accomplished alienating the average, boring, typical Americans like the rest of us - who happen to be Muslims.

Not the fundies who were already offended.

If you hate Muslims, then why not draw their prophet as a pig?

I wonder if Sam Harris is drawing Mohammed with dicks in his mouth. Or Hitchens. They probably agree with the best-case scenario interpretation of this initiative but I can't imagine them being so low-class.

1. Hating Islam isn't bigotry. I don't care if they call their ideology "sacred", it's still just that, a despicable ideology.
I hate Islam for the same reason I hate Christianism, Randian objectivism or Nazism; the dumb double standard of calling people islamophobes for critising/parodying Islam but not "christianophobe" for critising/parodying christianism needs to die.

2. When death threats are issued over cartoons, whatever the content, freedom of speech is indeed in danger.

3. Of course, there are moderate muslims.
Moderate muslims would laugh at the cartoons if they're funny or dismiss them as stupid if they aren't; not answer with death threats, fatwas or actual assassination attempts.
See, that's pretty much teh requirement to be "moderate". Funny how it works.

"9/11 was horrible and an atrocity, we all agree," said one person. "However, this does not mean that nobody can build two similar rectangle shaped buildings (I hear those are quite the fad in architecture) anymore."

Sums up the whole deal pretty well. You'll see a 9/11 reference if you want to see it, otherwise it's just twin skyscrapers with a weird cloud-like structure between them.

[Yuri-G]

1. Hating Islam isn't bigotry. I don't care if they call their ideology "sacred", it's still just that, a despicable ideology.

i'm just going to highlight this and let it stand for itself. it really doesn't necessitate a response.

[Ashmada]

XD. Epic point-missing. No matter how igrained the idea may be, hating a religion isn't bigotry anymore than hating any other philosophy or ideology.

[Meresgi]

Entire design looks really interesting. Drawing a comparison between this and 9/11 though? Eh yeah if you look for it, but who really gives a crap unless the buildings are named "America" and "Sucks" or something, and even then, they can do w/e the shit they want.

[Elvis]

1. Hating Islam isn't bigotry. I don't care if they call their ideology "sacred", it's still just that, a despicable ideology.
I hate Islam for the same reason I hate Christianism, Randian objectivism or Nazism; the dumb double standard of calling people islamophobes for critising/parodying Islam but not "christianophobe" for critising/parodying christianism needs to die.

2. When death threats are issued over cartoons, whatever the content, freedom of speech is indeed in danger.

3. Of course, there are moderate muslims.
Moderate muslims would laugh at the cartoons if they're funny or dismiss them as stupid if they aren't; not answer with death threats, fatwas or actual assassination attempts.
See, that's pretty much teh requirement to be "moderate". Funny how it works.

1. No, actually that is the textbook definition of being a bigot. Look it up instead of inventing your own definitions.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bigot

: a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance

2. No shit, no one is disputing this.
3. So moderate Muslims either laugh it off or issue death threats and enter the realm of extremism? That's their choices? They can't be moderate and offended by their prophet being drawn as something vulgar?

It is only natural for people to be offended by offensive things. Shocking how that works. That's why you won't see the vulgar drawings advertised on television as 'freedom of speech'. People with an IQ above room temperature will show some class at least. You sound like Pamela Gellar.