Ron Paul Rises

[Kuya]

interest rates are the passive mechanism that moves money to the rich from the non-rich.

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[Plow]

what he means is IF WE CATCH A SALMON ITS A SURPLUS

[Indalecia]

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[guartz]

lofuckingl

Yeah, the government can't slash regulations on big businesses, slash taxes on the wealthy, create tons of corporate tax loopholes and slash benefits for working-class people unless it has control of the money supply.

oh wait those things have nothing to do with each other

You are mistaken, if the government operated within a strict budget any type of tax favor/benefits would have to be met with immediate tax hikes. Not only is raising taxes a political suicide in most cases, it takes a amazing amount of political will. So the two are very much connected.

[guartz]

Inflation doesn't transfer shit to anyone.

Not technically true.

If fed loans a bank, say, 10 billion dollars, that money hasn't entered the market yet and therefore has higher purchasing power.

[guartz]

When it comes to free market, neoliberals are more free market than HELs, and libertarians fundamentally (and probably only) care about capitalism, so it's a no brainer who they're siding with. In practice, libertarians are in the republican party, not the democrats. So if anyone in this forum had the idea that libertarians were somehow in the middle between liberals and neoliberals, they should perish the thought. Libertarians are way over on the other side, and nowhere near yours.

neoliberals are nowhere near anything called "free market". There is nothing free market about using state coercion to dominate local markets, use tax dollars for free infrastructure, use state to restrict competition and use state power to suppress your own employees.

[Kerberoz]

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[Mazmaz]

God damn that shit is so stupid and you post it like every week.

[Buffy]

He's a creationist. Sorry cant take a candidate serious if he argues against science.

Creationism and science are not mutually exclusive. There is of course (as with anything) a group of individuals who go 'lolbigbang' and point to Jesus, but not every Christian ignores the fact that 2 + 2 = 4.

[guartz]

It's true. A lot of people believe the whole magic guy in the sky concept a bit ridiculous, but feel quite taken in by the social concept of religion. The kind of people who go to church for the conversation and coffee after the ceremonies.

[The Blackrose]

13 pages, and no one has made the remark that Ron Paul vs Generic Republican Candidate is an 0-10 matchup without Derp Factor?

[Shuvo]

I don't see anything wrong with his religious beliefs as long as he strictly keeps it out of his policies/politics, which he more or less has. The closest I've seen him come to this is saying that he is /personally/ against abortion, but would want it to be left as a state issue rather then a federal one, which is consistent with his entire ideology. e.g. He' also /personally/ for nuclear power, but has said he wouldn't support it federally.

Are there any better examples?

[kuronosan]

Did I miss the talk about the debate? I find it odd nobody is discussing it.

[Eaglestrike]

I turned it off once Romney started talking about increasing the military.

[Buffy]

I'm so conversative that most republicans make me rage, but I find it funny that republicans think they have a chance of winning this election. Obama is going to win because of the black vote - the same black vote that was galvanized in 2008, but failed to materialize at the polls in 2010 (incumbent always looses ground in the house/senate, etc etc).

And don't take that as a racist comment, I think the enduring legacy of Obama won't be a bailout or obamacare, but the fact that his excellent speeches and black skin tone helped bring a demographic of voters to the polls that were disinterested and non-participatory before his campaign (blacks and voters under 30).

The only republican that can win this election isn't running, and no, I don't know who that might be, they are all going to lose.

[Eaglestrike]

I think Ron Paul is the only one that has a chance against Obama. But it could also be a landslide for Obama vs Paul, lol. I just think he's so different from the rest of the field that we won't really know if he'll be accepted in or outright rejected if he gets to the final dance. He isn't Obama, so he gets that vote, and his "I'm not the politician everyone else is and I have the record to prove it." can really fuck up the "Change you can believe in." speech because Paul has a far better track record when it comes to all that.

I think despite the polls Obama will beat any "just another Republican" but Paul isn't, and we won't know if he can get accepted by the media/population if he's given the chance vs a president people are largely unhappy with.

[Shuvo]

Comment on race / black vote is retarded but I cbf'd arguing with it.

I think Ron Paul is the only one that has a chance against Obama. But it could also be a landslide for Obama vs Paul, lol. I just think he's so different from the rest of the field that we won't really know if he'll be accepted in or outright rejected if he gets to the final dance. He isn't Obama, so he gets that vote, and his "I'm not the politician everyone else is and I have the record to prove it." can really fuck up the "Change you can believe in." speech because Paul has a far better track record when it comes to all that.

I think despite the polls Obama will beat any "just another Republican" but Paul isn't, and we won't know if he can get accepted by the media/population if he's given the chance vs a president people are largely unhappy with.

Mitt Romney wouldn't have a bad chance against Obama really, he's been pretty good at the debates so far. Republicans would vote for him purely to defeat Obama, and with his romneycare background some liberals might even switch over, given the disappointment with Obama's profound weakness through his whole term. Plus he has the face of a president Newt would lose, he's just so inherently unlikable.

Ron Paul would be best by far, but I have the feeling that even if he does win the nomination by some miracle, Newt or one of the other low-moral candidates might run independently just to split the vote and give Obama the election, I'm sure corporate America would happily compensate him for the trouble. ~_~

[Plow]

I'm so conversative that most republicans make me rage, but I find it funny that republicans think they have a chance of winning this election. Obama is going to win because of the black vote - the same black vote that was galvanized in 2008, but failed to materialize at the polls in 2010 (incumbent always looses ground in the house/senate, etc etc).

And don't take that as a racist comment, I think the enduring legacy of Obama won't be a bailout or obamacare, but the fact that his excellent speeches and black skin tone helped bring a demographic of voters to the polls that were disinterested and non-participatory before his campaign (blacks and voters under 30).

The only republican that can win this election isn't running, and no, I don't know who that might be, they are all going to lose.

I'm guessing you have a good relationship with the blacks.

[Cadsuane]

neoliberals are nowhere near anything called "free market". There is nothing free market about using state coercion to dominate local markets, use tax dollars for free infrastructure, use state to restrict competition and use state power to suppress your own employees.

I don't think you know what neoliberalism means.

[archibaldcrane]

You are mistaken, if the government operated within a strict budget any type of tax favor/benefits would have to be met with immediate tax hikes. Not only is raising taxes a political suicide in most cases, it takes a amazing amount of political will. So the two are very much connected.

Or they could slash taxes on the wealthy/create corporate tax loopholes whilst slashing benefits for the middle/lower classes (which is exactly what I fucking said), maintaining their balanced budget and doing exactly what they want on both ends.