Ron Paul Rises

[archibaldcrane]

However, Rhinox is probably also right in that I don't know if a president could say "welp, take some money that was budgeted for this area of military spending and use it instead on dismantling bases and bringing troops home".

Congress controls the pursestrings and a bill would likely have to be passed to fund shit involved with bringing troops home. There may be some brinksmanship that Paul could pull though on a "what, don't you support our troops? you're going to let military intelligence fall into the wrong hands if we just up and leave, fund us returning home responsibly" stuff, which would be an interesting debate.

[zoobernut]

Paultards are getting to the level of evangelical atheists

He's a creationist. That's instant "wow fuck you" from me

Aren't all the other Republican candidates right now "creationists" too? Well with the exception of Newt I haven't heard him say anything about creationism.

[Headspace]

yall niggas posting in a troll thread

[test123]

6. Consequently, Ron Paul will ignore fact/truth in favor of belief.

That is why we have elections, he presents his positions and he has the best track record to stick with em.

[ronin sparthos]

Aren't all the other Republican candidates right now "creationists" too? Well with the exception of Newt I haven't heard him say anything about creationism.

No one ever presses on the fact that the Mormon account of history is sheer insanity either.

[Gredival]

Aren't all the other Republican candidates right now "creationists" too? Well with the exception of Newt I haven't heard him say anything about creationism.

Huntsman isn't. I can't imagine Romney is that stupid, he's probably just pretending to be one.

That is why we have elections, he presents his positions and he has the best track record to stick with em.

An assertion you have not proven. Based off a false belief that Ron Paul's positions are based in truth even though they are clearly shaped by beliefs he cannot prove, much less show empirical evidence in support of.

Go away.

[Elvis]

How will his religious views affect his politics? He isn't a Christian Zionist. He isn't a rabid nationalist war-mongerer. If you're voting Repub, then judge him with respect to the other guys.

That is, unless his economic policies are completely bonkers.

[Demosthenes11]

How will his religious views affect his politics? He isn't a Christian Zionist. He isn't a rabid nationalist war-mongerer. If you're voting Repub, then judge him with respect to the other guys.

believing in creationism is ignoring a mound of evidence to support your own personal narrative / worldview. That is not something any presidential candidate should ever do ever. I will never vote for a creationist

[Elvis]

believing in creationism is ignoring a mound of evidence to support your own personal narrative / worldview. That is not something any presidential candidate should ever do ever. I will never vote for a creationist

Using that standard - how do you judge the 'religiousity' of the other candidates? Are they also condemnable?

[Mazmaz]

Fuck this test123 guy. Every month or so he comes in with a Ron Paul thread and all you idiots fall for it. Great troll or the greatest troll?

[hey]

if you believe the earth is 6k years old, humans walked the earth with dinosaurs, and animals do not evolve, there is no fucking way I trust you to make the right decision based on evidence

This, so much.

[test123]

So a person you agree 99% with is not worth your vote, but someone that you agree 1% with deserves your vote instead?

[Fievel]

Fuck this test123 guy. Every month or so he comes in with a Ron Paul thread and all you idiots fall for it. Great troll or the greatest troll?

I think you give him too much credit.

[Demosthenes11]

Using that standard - how do you judge the 'religiousity' of the other candidates? Are they also condemnable?

basically, if you believe in a literal interpretation of your religion's text, fuck you

[Gredival]

Fucking quick reply fucked me up.

[Demosthenes11]

So a person you agree 99% with is not worth your vote, but someone that you agree 1% with deserves your vote instead?

I agree with RP on 1 topic, and that is the military. Libertarianism is an ideology that all white males aged 18-20 align themselves with, and then realize what bullshit it is and move on. Ron Paul somehow never got the memo

[test123]

And what other candidate do you agree with fiscally?

[Cail]

Fuck this test123 guy. Every month or so he comes in with a Ron Paul thread and all you idiots fall for it. Great troll or the greatest troll?

nah, leva was better in that angie thread

[Gredival]

Using that standard - how do you judge the 'religiousity' of the other candidates? Are they also condemnable?

Creationism merely proves that OP's fundamental premise - that Ron Paul's policy positions are based on truth rather than belief - wrong. By proving that Paul sometimes defaults to using belief in lieu of fact, he is reduced to the level of credibility that other candidates have.

It is now a question of both judgment and policy.

I believe that the ability to deny strong scientific evidence in the fashion that Paul does is indicative of poor judgment, a characteristic I do NOT want in a candidate. I don't believe in the majority of Ron Paul's policies. And because there is no defense that Paul's policies are based on truth, there is no leverage a Paul supporter has to prove me wrong.

And what other candidate do you agree with fiscally?

I will take Obama over Paul almost 90% of the time.

[Demosthenes11]

And what other candidate do you agree with fiscally?

nobody that wants to drastically cut our spending or social programs during a recession or give more power to the states