DAT MINING DISCUSSIONS -- December 14th 2011

[Francisco]

Got my stone - was trying to get more for LS members and Rarab Tails...

Shit fucking sucks. Over 100 in Boyahda at one point, 90 in Dangruf Wadi, 40 in Fei'Yin, 80 in Kuftal and Gustav, 30 in Onzozo...

I blame this all on fucking Tanaka. Fuck that guy. Hope someone shits down his throat.

In short, I second everything Airenn said.

[Bling]

I really bet any of the GoV areas that they adjusted enemy levels in will have some 95+ things to go kill for a stone. Everyone doesn't have to go to the 2 or 3 zones that the first people have posted.

[Francisco]

Maybe, but when do you rule a zone out?

I had moderate success on Aura Sculptures (3 stones in ~25 kills) with Dipper Yuly in the party. 0/50+ in Z. Mines (where I started when someone reported it dropping from an EP Crawler), 0/30ish in Fei'Yin, 0/40ish in Garlaige, 0/50ish in Korroloka.... drop rate probably just sucks without TH, but who wants to blindly kill mobs for a drop when the mobs might not even drop it?

[Nightfyre]

Maybe, but when do you rule a zone out?

I had moderate success on Aura Sculptures (3 stones in ~25 kills) with Dipper Yuly in the party. 0/50+ in Z. Mines (where I started when someone reported it dropping from an EP Crawler), 0/30ish in Fei'Yin, 0/40ish in Garlaige, 0/50ish in Korroloka.... drop rate probably just sucks without TH, but who wants to blindly kill mobs for a drop when the mobs might not even drop it?

We got 5 in maybe 10 mobs at Fei'Yin. I can't help but think you're doing it wrong.

[Cleverness]

It's really luck based, I had better luck getting 3 stones with no TH than some other people did with TH, but also some LS mate in a different zone with TH got 3 within like a few mobs while I was farming mine. Random shit is random. I don't know why the stones are still necessary if they removed the congestion issue by adding multiple zones, but I probably shouldn't be surprised at this point.

[Isiolia]

I really bet any of the GoV areas that they adjusted enemy levels in will have some 95+ things to go kill for a stone. Everyone doesn't have to go to the 2 or 3 zones that the first people have posted.

I checked some of them (Quicksands, Temple) and the GoV pages only went up to mobs in the mid-60s. I tried going several places that weren't the same few zones and got nothing.

Question though - does the limit break itself require merits (I got KI without using any), or is the 15 merit point thing post-LB, and just for unlocking the WS?

[Bling]

Anyone find out what the magic recast reduction cap is yet?

[Kirin]

Farmed up about 14 stones total between peoples mules and friends.

1/2 on the fight for me. Ochain Pld but only at 90 Ochain. Pld/Whm/Whm(mule)/Mnk/Drg(me)/Nin

Nin and apparently Rdm enfeebles land without much difficulty. Bar-Fire did seem to help with the enfire. Had a few panic moments the first fight when the taru would leave our Pld alone and go to Asuran one of our mages. He only did it once the second fight but didnt kill the whm. Pld did have to invincible during hundred fists, but we all survived the second fight fairly easily. Skillchaining does help a lot...

[Mojo]

Did the fight several times. We lost once when only three people were able to enter (you need to finish the quest before you can re-enter after winning.)

We used PLD MNK THF SCH WHM. There's a damage cap per strike so jobs like MNK/THF/NIN are optimal. Our PLD has 85 Ochain only, which is probably worse than an AH shield. AoE Enwater was helpful (+12 or +24 damage per strike), so was AoE Phalanx on all of the melee (reduces damage from both melee strikes and Enfire.) Melee should fulltime PDT/MDT sets for the fight on slots where you can't use haste, there isn't little benefit to other gear (like x-hit builds and such) due to damage cap per strike that also applies to WS. I also used defense food and ended up tanking half the time on MNK (don't use counterstance). I was dual boxing the WHM, fast cures are important. Really though it's not that bad.

[Darkmagi]

Didn't do a proper test, but capped magic haste + gear haste gave me a 12 second recast on utsu ni.

[Nightfyre]

Didn't do a proper test, but capped magic haste + gear haste gave me a 12 second recast on utsu ni.

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[Sho]

TO rant a bit:

I am pmsing, headache and generally feel suicidal all day every day - so disclaimer



Hi, SE, I thought we were past this fucking 100 people in a small room trying to outclaim for a small drop rate bullshit.

FUCK YOU, SE. Seriously. Fuck you, I thought you learned, fuck this stupid ass fucking shit. It's fucking stupid.

You're all goddamned cocksucking cuntwaffle bastards. I hope you never get another paying job making an MMO because you are all obviously retarded.

EDIT: I won't make a new post and clutter up this thread, but to the person below me; Yea, and there's at least 20+ people in each zone trying for them.
Regardless
My entire point of this being stupid and SE being idiots is still 100% fucking valid.

You'll still be playing the same game tomorrow. Stop complaining and do work.

[Zetanio]

Didn't do a proper test, but capped magic haste + gear haste gave me a 12 second recast on utsu ni.

Sounds expensive.

lol.

EDIT:

Also, 1 day of ridiculous pops in drop zones isn't going to ruin the game. You could just do it tomorrow or the next day. Ya know?

[dasva]

What an odd time though. You had ~68% haste but got -73% recast. You fast cast or something?

[Ophannus]

What are the items required for Level 99 OAT (Attack Twice) weapons?

[Argdar]

We finally got a win on our third attempt at limit break.

As I wrote earlier the biggest issue doing this is his ability to use two WSes back to back. If they're the wrong WSes, that's it. Nin tanks lose shadows and possibly get oneshotted by first WS, let alone multiples, and the same will happen to regular Plds.

We brought an Aegis to our eventual win attempt and the difference was shocking. What was doing 1k+ was now doing between 0-400 on a shield block. We played it safe and used the debuff item on him when he popped HF.

The debuff item makes him run around for ~60 seconds (he will still attack, but for crap damage), but more importantly it breaks his damage reduction. We used stun to get him to stop moving and I was able to land spells on blu for ~1000-1400 without issue.

The only tricky bit was that because of the running around he got behind our pld and did a WS which wasn't shield blocked which (naturally) one shotted him. We used a second debuff item and it worked, and just barely got him down before everyone wiped.

tl;dr: Do you have an Aegis/Ochain pld? You're probably fine. If you don't? Farm up as many rarab tails as you possibly can and use them all back to back.

[Mojo]

It's not even that hard

[dasva]

Well shit if you can land that much dmg on him with rarab tail should be easy to kill him with ranged or maybe gravity in 60 secs.

[Zetanio]

Everyone get on their DRKs. Krakens and Soul Eater will kill him. I promise.

[Yugl]

Bring 1 RNG and just shadowbind during the 2hr. Have all others back off. PLD tank, sure but Aegis/Ochain is definitely not needed.