Iran Thread

**Athas** · 2011-12-18 11:28

Originally Posted by Churchill

The one time I would believe a story coming from the Iranian Government would be this one where they claim to have hacked this drone.

I thought the story was they picked up some mobile radar jammers, fucked up the drones sensors which forced a crash.

**Churchill** · 2011-12-18 11:38

Story as I've heard it is at the top of the thread, which I find plausible. Without going into any detail as to why I will say one thing that makes me believe it aside from my own knowledge:

If this drone had really lost link "naturally" as they sometimes do, there would have been 120 Rangers, a multitude of A-10's and F-18's and god knows what else on their way to get it. When it loses link, it flies home. When it crashes, it crashes. It doesn't fly to an Iranian airfield and land in great condition, so like I said there would have been people getting this thing unless there was no way to get it; eg it didn't crash or lose link naturally.

**kuronosan** · 2011-12-18 11:41

Whatever. Let's continue to lying to the world or they'll think we've lost our spot as #1 superpower because those brown people don't have technology amirite?

**Shuvo** · 2011-12-18 11:47

When I first heard of this my first thought was it was deliberately handed over to Iran in some elaborate attempt to get intel on their more sensitive facilities, say by some camera running off a separate/hidden power source.

Then I remembered how a few months ago the Taliban were found to be equipped with tv screens that gave a direct video feed of nearby drones from their unencrypted, broadcasted video signal . So I'm going to go with the theory that Lockheed Martin are run by incompetents that never envisioned it might be up against clever people.

From the sound of it it seems like everything but the control signals are unencrypted, so jamming any transmission combined with spoofing GPS coordinates was a clever way to trigger the auto land. I'm just surprised the failsafe was to autoland instead of auto self destruct. I suppose the spoofed GPS coordinates made it think it was in America or something, hence the autoland. I just can't believe they would overlook such a relatively cheap and easy defensive measure.

For your guys sake I hope they at least don't use a hardcoded encryption key for the control signals, and change it on every single mission. Else before you know it your entire fleet of drones can be turned against you. Imagine the chaos.

**Churchill** · 2011-12-18 11:49

Close but not exactly.

**Elvis** · 2011-12-18 12:02

Originally Posted by Shuvo

For your guys sake I hope they at least don't use a hardcoded encryption key for the control signals, and change it on every single mission. Else before you know it your entire fleet of drones can be turned against you. Imagine the chaos.

FTFY

**Shuvo** · 2011-12-18 12:16

What? It's a perfectly valid scenario /if/ they used hardcoded encryption keys for the control signals.

**Elvis** · 2011-12-18 16:42

I know but couldn't resist. Not familiar w/ all that military jargon but I thought of the movie when you said 'for your sake'/'imagine the chaos'.

**Kerberoz** · 2011-12-18 22:29

Originally Posted by Tagus

So if we nuked Iran, would it turn the sand into a sheet of glass?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinitite

**Cail** · 2011-12-27 23:57

TEHRAN, Iran (AP) — Iran's official news agency on Tuesday quoted a top official as saying Iran will close the Strait of Hormuz, cutting off oil exports, if the West imposes sanctions on Iran's oil shipments.

According to the IRNA report Tuesday Vice President Mohamed Reza Rahimi said Iran does not want hostilities but charged that the West continues its plots against Iran.

The West is considering limiting Iran's oil trade over its disputed nuclear program. Some 80 percent of Iran's foreign revenue comes from oil exports.

In Washington, State Department spokesman Mark Toner called the threat "bluster." He said it was "another attempt by them to distract attention from the real issue, which is their continued noncompliance with international nuclear obligations."

Rahimi has no major role in Iran's foreign or military policy.

Iran is conducting a 10-day naval maneuver in the area the of the Strait of Hormuz, where about 40 percent of the world's oil supply passes. Closing the strait would have immense world economic impact.

interesting. then i saw the guy who said it has no major role in iran's policy that would most directl affect this

**tyven** · 2011-12-28 00:11

where do the brown people get the technology? surely they cant build it in their huts and pyramids

**Xno Kappa** · 2011-12-28 00:20

Yeah right they'd do something like that lol. Go ahead and hold a third of the world's oil supply essentially hostage and see how fast you get your shit pushed in by everyone taking their turns.

**djzombie** · 2011-12-28 02:02

http://www.bloomberg.com/article/201...OcZ6NT3wo.html

I'll just leave this right hur.

NEW YORK, December 23, 2011 /PRNewswire/ --

A federal district court in Manhattan yesterday entered a historic ruling that
reveals new facts about Iran's support of al Qaeda in the 9/11 attacks. U.S.
District Judge George B. Daniels ruled yesterday that Iran and Hezbollah
materially and directly supported al Qaeda in the September 11, 2001 attacks
and are legally responsible for damages to hundreds of family members of 9/11
victims who are plaintiffs in the case.

**Lee** · 2011-12-28 05:54

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D61uriEGsIM

I really liked this documentary, check it out.

It'd be unfortunate if we invaded/had a war.

**Elvis** · 2011-12-28 06:50

Originally Posted by djzombie

http://www.bloomberg.com/article/201...OcZ6NT3wo.html

I'll just leave this right hur.

It's been several days since this story broke. Has the White House made any comments on the ruling? I can't find anything by searching for "White House" "9/11" "Iran" (kind of broad but this is a big story) in Google News.

**Ragnus** · 2011-12-28 08:44

Well, looks like Iran is now subject to the USA's "Punish 'dem damn terrorists" laws now.

**Dimmauk** · 2011-12-28 09:49

Originally Posted by Ragnus

Well, looks like Iran is now subject to the USA's "Punish 'dem damn terrorists" laws now.

NEVER FORGET!

**Correction** · 2011-12-28 10:37

NEW YORK, December 23, 2011 /PRNewswire/ --

No related links.
Naked press release from a Marketing firm.
Zero analysis.
Something stinks here.

**Gustave** · 2011-12-28 10:58

Originally Posted by Correction

No related links.
Naked press release from a Marketing firm.
Zero analysis.
Something stinks here.

Yea I was looking for an article on CNN or something to send to a friend but couldn't find anything.

**Cail** · 2011-12-28 11:06

TEHRAN, Iran (AP) — Iran's navy chief says his country can easily close the strategic Strait of Hormuz at the mouth of the Persian Gulf, the passageway through which a sixth of the world's oil flows.

Adm. Habibollah Sayyari told state-run Press TV Wednesday that the navy is in control of the vital waterway and can readily block it. It was the second such warning from a senior official in two days.

Vice President Mohamed Reza Rahimi threatened Tuesday that Iran will close the strait, cutting off oil exports, if the West imposes sanctions on Iranian oil shipments to punish Tehran for its nuclear program, which the west suspects is aimed at making weapons.

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