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  1. #21
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    Still relies on assault tags
    Fucking fail right there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Outlaw View Post
    Worse. Watch the upgrade items for Nyzul gear only drop from the bosses.
    I think it's either going to be this, or something like:
    * Magian Trial, Denali Hands to Denali Hands +1 :: Kill the Floor 40 Mamool 5 times!
    * Magian Trial, Denali Hands to Denali Hands +1 :: Kill the Floor 40 Medusa 5 times!
    etc.

    And you can't control which one you get or even if you end up on that floor at all. It would almost make sense, considering how ridiculous some of the upgraded Nyzul pieces are. Denali Legs/Head are ridiiiiculous.

  3. #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by Byrthnoth View Post
    I think it's either going to be this, or something like:
    * Magian Trial, Denali Hands to Denali Hands +1 :: Collect pop items for NM on floor 40 and get a drop from said NM 5 times!
    etc.
    ftfy

  4. #24
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  5. #25
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    This sounds pretty horrible, completely not being able to control what floor you want to go to + limiting it with assault tags sounds beyond frustrating if you get shafted and don't get sent to anything close to a boss floor. Hoping that any NM can drop pouches and boss floors drop linen ones.

  6. #26
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    Pens win! Pens Win!!! PENS WIN!!!!!

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    Mmmm gonna see how it goes on test server

  7. #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kincard View Post
    I assume it's going to be about as hard as climbing Nyzul at 75 was, so if you get lucky you're only hitting maybe...8 floors or so, tops?
    Not sure about you but I remember my group clearing as many as 11 floors with a little luck with 4 people at level75. Random floor option kinda comes off as a fork in the road.
    As in clear floor 7: continue to 8 or go to 8B or 8C even. I'm getting it could branch outwards instead of just upwards.

  8. #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spira View Post
    a. Proceeding
    After completing Floor 100, you will be returned to Floor 1.
    - "Travel to Floor ###" will transport you to the next floor.
    - "Travel to Floor ???" will transport you to a random floor.
    .
    I think this means you can choose to either progress floors 1 by 1 OR choose a random floor and hope you get lucky, meaning you could go from floor 1-100, or 95-3 or something stupid, and as for it saying "you will always begin on floor 1 regardless of completion" I would assume it means based on your progression from original Nyzul Isle >.>

    or am I giving them too much credit?

  9. #29
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    It just means you start at floor 1 every run and there's no way to make consistent progress in the event. I'm sure this was done because of how much trouble some people had trying to climb Nyzul Isle (Especially NA side since nobody ever shouts for anything, and most shouted up players are shit).

    Not sure about you but I remember my group clearing as many as 11 floors with a little luck with 4 people at level75.
    Would have to get a hell of a good roll on floors at 75 to clear 11 floors with just 4. Most I ever remember clearing at 75 was about 13 floors with 6.

    I mean, I guess since you have basically about a 25% chance of being randomized within 5 levels of a boss floor (assuming this works the same as original Nyzul, anyway), it's not too unreasonable to assume you'd get to fight a boss about once every 2 runs on average if you progress competently.

  10. #30
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    It's going to be:

    Askar Manopolas +1 - Collect 500 Alexandrite.
    Askar Manopolas +2 - Collect 1000 Alexandrite.

    etc.

    Trust me.

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    More grind, awesome.

  12. #32
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    Quote Originally Posted by Therin View Post
    It's going to be:

    Askar Manopolas +1 - Collect 500 Alexandrite.
    Askar Manopolas +2 - Collect 1000 Alexandrite.

    etc.

    Trust me.
    Oh come on, the Dev team wouldn't do something harebrained like that.

    It would be 10,000 * level to upgrade.

  13. #33
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    Not sure if want.

  14. #34
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yimoa View Post
    Not sure about you but I remember my group clearing as many as 11 floors with a little luck with 4 people at level75.
    I guess getting 2 free and multiple easy IG floors makes clearing 11 the norm...

    like that guy who said his WS's "average about 3k on birds", when really by average they mean got a lucky roll and hit 3k one time.

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    I'd be happy if the individual floor clear conditions are still the same as old Nyzul if the rest of it changes. A random dungeon at 99 is something I think could be pretty fun and currently lacking anyway.

    What I foresee is that each run is probably like a randomized tower climb. Like the new random floor element isn't truly random but a variable out of like +2 to +10 but with the chance of a floor penalty being imposed proportional to how far up you jump.
    Like, bosses will still appear at 20 40 60 80 100, but depending on how the floors jump you may decide to do a 1 by 1 climb to the next boss or jump higher to the next boss tier.
    And instead of each boss floor dropping different stuff, higher floors will simply drop more upgrade items at a go, or at a higher drop rate, and maybe 1 or 2 exclusives

  16. #36
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    This is SEMI out of place but:

    What happened to making +1 gear? Are they doing that for the Askar/Goliard?

    But mostly, I wanted to know about Salvage +1? I thought that was supposed to be in the making/last update.

    Any info you guys? I just came back recently so I did miss a lot...

  17. #37
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    Movie Trailer voice: They thought he disappeared three years ago, he sat in darkness waiting, waiting for them to forget.

    Camera pans over Abyssea

    Movie Trailer voice: While saving one dimension our heroes only doomed another.

    *horror movie music* Camera fixes on an SE meeting round table during a meeting.

    Tanaka: NO, NO, BALANCE, BALANCE, BALANCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Screen fades to black.

    Movie Trailer voice: In vana'diels darkest hour a familar foe turns into an ally.

    Sage Sundi: CANCEL SUBS YOU FOOLS, I CANNOT STOP THE BALANCE.

    Movie Trailer Voice: Coming this spring to a server near you, Square Enix presents.

    Camera pans through Nyzul.


    Movie Trailer Voice: The trolling of Tanaka

    Tanaka: NONE OF THE CONTENT IS SAFE FROM BALANCE.

  18. #38
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    ^omg lol, especially this:
    Quote Originally Posted by Lordender View Post
    Movie Trailer voice: In vana'diels darkest hour a familar foe turns into an ally.

    Sage Sundi: CANCEL SUBS YOU FOOLS, I CANNOT STOP THE BALANCE.
    Fuckin gold.

  19. #39
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    On floor 20 u get Lamia NM, on floor 40 mamool NM, floor 60 troll NM, floor 80 - vampyr NM, floor 100 = pandemonium warden

    in order to upgrade nyzul armor u need items from these bosses (no known number yet)

    floor 20 NM = +1 upgrade items
    floor 40 NM = +2 upgrade items
    floor 60 NM= +3 upgrade items
    floor 80 NM= +4 upgrade items
    floor 100 NM = +5 upgrade items

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    so basically /random if you get to 100 or the run is shit

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