NFL Wild Card Weekend: Coaching carousels and sickle-cells

**Mertron** · 2012-01-04 18:29

Originally Posted by Cleverness

I thought it was obvious Peyton was gonna win MVP after this Colts season. He gets it whether he plays or not, he is clearly the most valuable player to that team.

cutler for mvp

**Akiyama** · 2012-01-04 18:31

Originally Posted by Spaghetti

Forte for mvp

.

**Cleverness** · 2012-01-04 18:42

If the Bears had Forte active, even with Cutler injured, they would have won a couple more games. They'd be 1 and done in the playoffs with that mess they had in QB afterwards, but they only needed a few more wins to seal it with where they were at.

They'd at least win that Broncos game that the Cowboy Reject lost them cause he can't stay in bounds, and then fumble the ball in OT.

**Moss** · 2012-01-04 18:43

Originally Posted by Bregor

And just so I don't go an entire write-up without mentioning a quarterback, Eli > Matty Ice.

Nah.

Season QBR:
Ryan 67.5 (5th)
Eli 61.0 (13th)

/easilytrolled

Picks:

Houstin to win and cover. I don't buy the whole "happy to be there" BS. I think they will be pumped up in front of the home crowd.
Saints to win but not cover. Lions could catch back up in garbage time.
Pitt to win and cover.

**Tweek** · 2012-01-04 18:44

true stories

**archibaldcrane** · 2012-01-04 18:44

Originally Posted by Moss

Saints to win but not cover. Lions could catch back up in garbage time.

>implying there's garbage time in Saints games

how do you think Brees broke Marino's record? It wasn't by riding the pine in blowouts.

**Moss** · 2012-01-04 18:48

Originally Posted by archibaldcrane

>implying there's garbage time in Saints games

how do you think Brees broke Marino's record? It wasn't by riding the pine in blowouts.

Another interesting thing I heard on the Simmons podcast last night:

Dome Games:

AR12 - 3
Brady - 1
Brees - 11

DOMES

**archibaldcrane** · 2012-01-04 18:50

I really hope Minnesota puts in an open-air stadium if they ever get one built.

Erm, actually I really hope they move to LA for lulz, but yeah.

**Mertron** · 2012-01-04 18:52

Originally Posted by Moss

Another interesting thing I heard on the Simmons podcast last night:

Dome Games:

AR12 - 3
Brady - 1
Brees - 11

DOMES

matty ice - 12

domes lol

**Xajii** · 2012-01-04 18:52

Eli is the better QB, but Matty Ice has more depth on the receiving end and better playcalling from his coaches.

**archibaldcrane** · 2012-01-04 18:53

Originally Posted by Moss

Another interesting thing I heard on the Simmons podcast last night:

Dome Games:

AR12 - 3
Brady - 1
Brees - 11

DOMES

Funny thing is:

In a dome

Rodgers: 126.2 passer rating
Brees: 118.1

Outside:

Rodgers: 121.5
Brees: 95.7

Rodgers beats Brees as his own dome game, and is better outside than Brees is inside.

**Headspace** · 2012-01-04 18:53

Average ranking of defenses Carolina played: 20th vs the Pass 19th Total

Average ranking of defenses Cincinnati played: 9th vs the Pass 10th Total

CAM NEWTON

**archibaldcrane** · 2012-01-04 18:55

In fact, there's not a single split this year where Rodgers has a passer rating lower than 115.1. Home, away, indoors, outdoors, windy, rainy, cold, mild, warm - 115.1 is his lowest split.

**Moss** · 2012-01-04 18:58

Originally Posted by Spaghetti

matty ice - 12

domes lol

I wasn't making a case for Matty Ice having THE BEST SEASON OF ALL TIEMZ so that's irrelevant

/easilytrolled

Originally Posted by Xajii

Eli is the better QB, but Matty Ice has more depth on the receiving end and better playcalling from his coaches.

I disagree. We might have more depth(Harry Douglas, Eric Weems) but we don't use it. I can't speak to the Giants playcalling but the Falcons uber-conservative playcalling does not do Matty Ice any favors.

**Xajii** · 2012-01-04 19:01

@Heady - interesting stats.

Andy Dalton: 20 TD, 13 INT, 3,398 YD, 80.4 QBR 152 Rushing YD, 1 Rushing TD
Cam Newton: 21 TD, 17 INT, 4,051 YD, 84.5 QBR 706 Rushing YD, 14 Rushing TD

Similar passing stats, but Cam's rushing threat makes him a lot more... let's say popular than Dalton.

**Moss** · 2012-01-04 19:03

Originally Posted by Xajii

@Heady - interesting stats.

Andy Dalton: 20 TD, 13 INT, 3,398 YD, 80.4 QBR 152 Rushing YD, 1 Rushing TD
Cam Newton: 21 TD, 17 INT, 4,051 YD, 84.5 QBR 706 Rushing YD, 14 Rushing TD

Similar passing stats, but Cam's rushing threat makes him a lot more... let's say popular than Dalton.

Just so no one gets confused, QBR and QB rating are two different things. Newton finished with a 56.6 QBR, Dalton with a 47.3. It factors in rushing stats.

**archibaldcrane** · 2012-01-04 19:03

Originally Posted by Moss

I can't speak to the Giants playcalling but the Falcons uber-conservative playcalling does not do Matty Ice any favors.

well

it keeps him from getting exposed

so there's that

**archibaldcrane** · 2012-01-04 19:04

Originally Posted by Moss

Just so no one gets confused, QBR and QB rating are two different things. Newton finished with a 56.6 QBR, Dalton with a 47.3. It factors in rushing stats.

The words you're looking for are "passer rating".

**Xajii** · 2012-01-04 19:04

Originally Posted by Moss

Just so no one gets confused, QBR and QB rating are two different things. Newton finished with a 56.6 QBR, Dalton with a 47.3. It factors in rushing stats.

My mistake. That'll teach me to abbreviate shit.

**Headspace** · 2012-01-04 19:06

Cam, rookie of all years.

he just makes plays against tough competition

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