FL Teen Aquitted of Murder in Bully Stabbing

[Jeryhn]

And nothing of value was lost.

This is the correct answer.

Florida got something right with that Stand Your Ground law.

[archibaldcrane]

Seeing florida and stabbing death of a bully reminded me of this movie:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0242193/

http://www.fratfury.com/wp-content/u...9/07/bully.jpg

It's pretty fucking great and nuts.

[Dimmauk]

I was watching three o'clock high the other day and it reminded me of a time when people dealt with bullying like men. Nowadays, people just emo out and cry and kill themselves.

I guess if a boss is horrible we should just kill them too? I'm prodeath as much as the next guy, but you had an armed person killing an unarmed person. After the fif stab I'm sure the bully got the hint.

[Eurell]

I was watching three o'clock high the other day and it reminded me of a time when people dealt with bullying like men. Nowadays, people just emo out and cry and kill themselves.

I guess if a boss is horrible we should just kill them too? I'm prodeath as much as the next guy, but you had an armed person killing an unarmed person. After the fif stab I'm sure the bully got the hint.

If the boss threatens you, then chases you down and attacks you? Yeah, fucking go for it.

And ffs anyone that thinks the number of stabbings is such a big deal, how long do you think it takes to stab 12 times with a pocketknife? Thats like 3 seconds. The bully honestly probably did not get the hint by the 5th stab lol.

[Jeryhn]

I'm prodeath as much as the next guy, but you had an armed person killing an unarmed person. After the fif stab I'm sure the bully got the hint.

Irrelevant, the kid did everything in his power to avoid the fight, was followed by multiple people, and only killed one of them. The hint in question was the one given to the rest of them.

[Headspace]

The kid probably tried to stop after the fifth stab but his Mercurial Kris kept proccing

[Bregor]

Florida's batshit crazy anyway. Stabbin' bullies, and suffocating and duct taping babies like a boss.

[Valisk]

I guess if a boss is horrible we should just kill them too? I'm prodeath as much as the next guy, but you had an armed person killing an unarmed person. After the fif stab I'm sure the bully got the hint.

Excellent analogy there, Dummy. It's a 17 year old picking on a 14 year old. The 14 year old attempted to avoid the altercation by getting off several stops early and taking the long way home. Punched in the back of the head and tried to run away. All the eye witnesses corroborated that story. It's unfortunate that the young man had to lose his life but he brought it upon himself.

The kid probably tried to stop after the fifth stab but his Mercurial Kris kept proccing

Magnificent.

[Judai]

I guess if a boss is horrible we should just kill them too? I'm prodeath as much as the next guy, but you had an armed person killing an unarmed person. After the fif stab I'm sure the bully got the hint.

Unarmed person shouldn't have started the fight, armed person tried to the bigger "man" and walk away. There is only so much someone can take and I'm sure the kid snapped and had a mental breakdown when he reacted and stabbed the kid the first time, causing him to continue until he felt he was safe.

People like to act all tough but bullies can ruin a kid's life, causing serious emotional trauma. Hopefully this case gets national recognition and parents realize there is now a precedent for protecting yourself from a bully(even if it's only based on a FL law) and parents start to become aware of their children's actions. I hate the "everyone is a victim here" comments also because that's not true, one side started the issue and caused the other side to make a decision. You aren't a victim when you force someone to defend themselves against you.

[Correction]

The kid probably tried to stop after the fifth stab but his Mercurial Kris kept proccing

[Roundelk]

You don't punish someone for fight or flight. Have you ever been in what you felt was a life-or-death situation regarding an attacker?

No I haven't but this kid wasn't either. The bully wasn't trying to kill him he was just doing normal bully things. Defending yourself is ok, no one has a problem with that even with a weapon but when your using a knife 1 or 2 stabs is enough to bring the attacker down. To me self defense is like that fat kid who slamed that skinny kid in Australia I believe. He did it once and that's it the attacker is down and unable to continue fighting so the fat kid walked away now if he continued to do it then he should have been punished because now he is causing more harm for no other reason but to cause more harm.

[Lucavi]

I was watching three o'clock high the other day and it reminded me of a time when people dealt with bullying like men. Nowadays, people just emo out and cry and kill themselves.

I guess if a boss is horrible we should just kill them too? I'm prodeath as much as the next guy, but you had an armed person killing an unarmed person. After the fif stab I'm sure the bully got the hint.

How, exactly does one deal with bullying like a man, as a child?

Edit: I'll put it for you like this, Roundelk; the kid would have been in far more trouble had he simply continued to walk away, and would have been in more trouble had he fought back, but then walked away if he kicked the kids ass, OR had he fought back and gotten his ass kicked. You can preach about self-defence all you like from behind your monitor, just like an armchair general preaches about how necessary war is while he's not getting shot at, but when fight-or-flight takes over, that's it. At that point, its entirely up to the person who is engaged in that mode, as to what they ultimately do. No amount of armchair "think about XXX example which may or may not have been the same as YYY example or your ZZZ example!!" matters when fight-or-flight takes over.

Point of order: never blame the victim. Blame the bully.

[Kerberoz]

Seeing florida and stabbing death of a bully reminded me of this movie:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0242193/

http://www.fratfury.com/wp-content/u...9/07/bully.jpg

It's pretty fucking great and nuts.

Mmmmm Bijou tits.

[Judai]

No I haven't but this kid wasn't either. The bully wasn't trying to kill him he was just doing normal bully things. Defending yourself is ok, no one has a problem with that even with a weapon but when your using a knife 1 or 2 stabs is enough to bring the attacker down. To me self defense is like that fat kid who slamed that skinny kid in Australia I believe. He did it once and that's it the attacker is down and unable to continue fighting so the fat kid walked away now if he continued to do it then he should have been punished because now he is causing more harm for no other reason but to cause more harm.

That kid could have easily broke his neck on that slam and died, though I felt that kid was justified as well since he didn't do anything until several punches were thrown. Bullies can fuck themselves and deserve to get beatdown..

The kid tired to do everything he could to get away, at his maturity level and mental capacity he isn't going to understand that this kid is simply going to beat the shit out of him and put him in the hospital, he feels he is in mortal danger and is defending himself. As soon as he decided to turn and stab once he probably had a mental breakdown because he felt in fear of his life, thus he didn't stop stabbing until he felt safe, which was probably when the kid went limp a few seconds later.

Being an adult we can understand and realize the difference between mortal danger and simply danger, a child will not be able to go through the same thought process. Shit, most of us probably felt in mortal danger the first time we fell off a bike.

[Callisto]

No I haven't but this kid wasn't either. The bully wasn't trying to kill him he was just doing normal bully things. Defending yourself is ok, no one has a problem with that even with a weapon but when your using a knife 1 or 2 stabs is enough to bring the attacker down. To me self defense is like that fat kid who slamed that skinny kid in Australia I believe. He did it once and that's it the attacker is down and unable to continue fighting so the fat kid walked away now if he continued to do it then he should have been punished because now he is causing more harm for no other reason but to cause more harm.

lol...if you don't know how it is to be attacked in such a manner you really shouldn't be judging. When you are being attacked and you seriously feel the need to fight back, you don't just hit him once and stop if you knock him down. This is a 14 year old skinny kid being jumped, not some sort of zen-master karate student. When you get jumped you either 1) run, which he tried to do and was still jumped, 2) turtle up and hope you don't die, or 3) attack back, and at this point you're seeing red. You attack until they are either running away or not moving, it's not like you have the time/presence of mind to say 'oh well cool, he felt that one, I probably should stop now'.

[Lucavi]

I hate armchair generals. This is a child, equipped with a weapon, faced with a fight-or-flight situation. What do you think he's going to do? Panic, throw the knife away and run?

Fucking idiot.

[Callisto]

I was jumped in 5th grade and the shit was like A Christmas Story lol, I put my hands up like Goku and was filled with all of the world's skinny white nerd rage, fucking wailed on that kid until 3 people had to pull me off lol, still the only fight I've ever been in in my life.

[Jeryhn]

The bully wasn't trying to kill him he was just doing normal bully things.

Going to stop your ignorant ass right here. No, bullying isn't normal. As said earlier in the thread it causes trauma, and people react to trauma in different ways. For instance, someone who's been bullied constantly by multiple people might develop emotional problems that cause them to lash out with a knife with twelve stabs on a perpetrator when his limit for being bullied has been breached.

Do you see how stupid your argument is yet?

[Callisto]

In general being a douchebag is just high-risk behavior, especially when you escalate it to physical violence. One day you're just going to catch someone on the wrong day at the wrong time and boom

http://livederbygirls.com/wp-content...lling_down.jpg

[BaneTheBrawler]

The kid probably tried to stop after the fifth stab but his Mercurial Kris kept proccing

fucking lol.

also, darwinism. Bully was clearly too stupid not to attack someone more heavily armed than he was. I got bullied a fair amount as a kid (never anything where I feared for my life, but it was still shitty), but my bullies knew when they pushed too far. I'd find the nearest stick (I once used a small telephone pole, lol!) and start trying to attack them. They ran, because they weren't brain dead. I wasn't very fast so they could outrun me, but if I'd caught them I'd have given them a good wallop or twelve.

Still, sucks that he died. Even stupid people deserve a chance to make something of themselves.