Random Question Thread XXV: Septimus Maximus, Isladar Über Alles

[Taim Meich]

Only thing I can note is lack of Blood Rage. Using unnerfed crit rate I have close to perfect UF set averaging above Upheaval (Moonshade Att/TP in both sets, Avant+1/Windbuffet/Gorget/Rancor Mantle), using 20% crit rate I see same results as you. Ukon is still ahead in overall damage with ODD, not to mention I don't think you'll fight something like Bukhis outside in the first place. Adding in buffs/BR Ukon pulls ahead and stays ahead.

Of course, Ukon is a superior weapon, and will produce higher overal damage (and higher Upheavals if I used that one in the Upheaval set). What surprised me was that, with BR down (and that's only active 20% of the time), Upheaval is so powerful that can outdamage Ukko's Fury even with an inferior weapon.

The conclusions I get, then, are:

If inside of Abyssea:

- Ukon users: Ukko's Fury only.
- Widowmaker users: Raging Rush only.

If outside of Abyssea, and BR up:

- Ukon users: Ukko's Fury.
- Widowmaker users: Upheaval.

If outside of Abyssea, and BR down:

- Ukon users: Upheaval.
- Widowmaker users: Upheaval.


Not bad for a WS that was pretty much considered as "okay" at first.

[Neisan]

For the time being assuming ODD is already up, adding in Askar+5 and Ukko's wins handily. UF is going to spike higher, Upheaval seems more consistent without buffs in near perfect set.

I haven't noted any errors on the newest sheet, but the Str tab at the minimum still won't let me add the last 4 merits.

Note: on a supposed level 112 mob with 750 defense and increased stats, UF is winning all the time. Comes down to 'better on weaker targets'.

[Talint]

So, if I'm reading this right, best magian g.axe for WAR is Ukonvasara; not a double attack axe?

Also, are there any general atmas that players should be expected to have/use when in abyssea?

[TSFFXI]

For the sake of keeping it simple...
Athos Chapeau has Haste+5 and FastCast+2. As far as spell recasts go, thats basically Haste+6, right.

In general, I think you know more about the game than I do, but here's how to calculate recasts for reference:

1. [Spell Recast]*[1 - Fast Cast Value/200]
2. Round up if above .5, down for .5 or lower
3. [Rounded Value]*[1 - Haste Value (all forms)/100]
4. Round again, as before.

If it's the only source of fast cast you use, the affect gets rounded off in the second step unless you're casting something with a really high recast.

You can probably cap haste with your other equipment spots, though.

[Neisan]

So, if I'm reading this right, best magian g.axe for WAR is Ukonvasara; not a double attack axe?

Also, are there any general atmas that players should be expected to have/use when in abyssea?

You've been gone for awhile I'm guessing >< Ukon was the best magian GA for damage since 85 cap.

For all out damage, Razed Ruins/Sanguine Scythe/Apoc, I typically swap in Voracious Violet if proc whore.

[Talint]

You've been gone for awhile I'm guessing >< Ukon was the best magian GA for damage since 85 cap.

For all out damage, Razed Ruins/Sanguine Scythe/Apoc, I typically swap in Voracious Violet if proc whore.

Pretty much!

I'm still wrapping my head around the higher DMG rating outweighing Double Attack, which outweighs OAT. It'll hit me, randomly, eventually.

[Churchill]

It's probably the addition of "Ukko's Fury" "Aftermath: Occasionally deals double damage"

[Talint]

It's probably the addition of "Ukko's Fury" "Aftermath: Occasionally deals double damage"

How often does it proc?

[Taim Meich]

95 version procs 30% of the time at 100% TP, IIRC.

[Lyramion]

Why on earth would you want to?

3regain saveTP? lol

[Dotsudoku]

Standard Widowmaker WAR TP set? Only really have AF3 body to work with at the moment, if that changes things. Assuming something like:

Widow/Sword S./--/AF3
Zelus/AF3/AF3/Brutal
AF3/AF3/Blitz/Rajas
Atheling/Goading/AF3/AF3

[Taim Meich]

Widow/Claymore/--/AF3
Zelus/AF3/AF3/Brutal
Grim Cuir./AF3/Blitz/Rajas
Atheling/Goading/AF3/AF3

That would be better. Head/body combination can change to the Mekira set, and you can get a 6%+ haste belt and get a ring other than Blitz.

[Koyangi]

Because of random 1 shots, retarded hate resets, abilities not showing properly in logs or whatever else other reason 1 could think of, should 2 SMN99 with DG/VV/RR + 1 SMN99 MM/RR/VV, 1 BRD99 for Ballads, and THF only for TH be able to kill Glavoid easy?

Also, if I want to farm currency well, should I camp by NM's and kill/proc them as much as possible to maximize my bang per run, or stick to a camp with mostly JA and ignore NM's, and thirdly, after recent changes is it better to do a CoP Dyna or a city for specific currencies?

[jimbobsonofgod]

Also, if I want to farm currency well, should I camp by NM's and kill/proc them as much as possible to maximize my bang per run, or stick to a camp with mostly JA and ignore NM's, and thirdly, after recent changes is it better to do a CoP Dyna or a city for specific currencies?

Personally found it better to ignore NM and just JA proc camp rotate, Definitely better to do COP provided you can get in a zone/camp without a billion people in it. Its better to do COP and then sell the currency you don't need to buy the ones you do.

[Vyvian]

There were no details because it was a tanaka ninja nerf. I'm not making this up, I swear I remember reading about it, and people were pissed. I know that counter attacks give evasion skill up or something now, but I'm unsure if that also applies to retalliation. Can anyone confirm? >_>

I could probably go test myself, I guess. I don't really want to log in, though.

Someone did post that, but 2 things. First.. counter has given evasion skillups for a long time, and second, I tested it a minute ago and it still gives weapon skillups. In fact I've gotten an evasion skillup and a weapon skill up off the same counter attack. The person who posted it must not have played mnk before capping evasion skill and never realized or forgot about it.

If people want to debate that the rate weapon skill gains increase through counters was reduced, that may be possible.

I took my mnk to abyssea and equipped a staff and found 2 Even Match Sand Sweepers and positioned so my target was not attackable, but the second one could be countered. I attached a screenshot of my staff +0.5 on a counter.

Spoiler: show

[Julian]

Hey, I'm not arguing, that's awesome! Thanks!

[Yugl]

Fast Cast on Rubeus?

[Churchill]

I just did it the other day and got 70 skill ups on axe in one Montagna via retaliation, another instance I got ~50 levels on GS

So unless I would have got more prior to that, I'd say it's still working as intended.

[Virg]

For the time being assuming ODD is already up, adding in Askar+5 and Ukko's wins handily. UF is going to spike higher, Upheaval seems more consistent without buffs in near perfect set.

I haven't noted any errors on the newest sheet, but the Str tab at the minimum still won't let me add the last 4 merits.

Note: on a supposed level 112 mob with 750 defense and increased stats, UF is winning all the time. Comes down to 'better on weaker targets'.

I´d be curious to see how a real Great Axe (Bravura 95) using Upheaval compares to Ukonvasara 90 or even 95 using Ukko´s Fury, both with perfect sets.

[xIndustrialxAngelx]

Any other atmacites worth upgrading for a person who plays DD mostly for VW? Already have Coercion/Discipline maxed.