Random Question Thread XXV: Septimus Maximus, Isladar Über Alles

[Nightfyre]

http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/993...d-Face-Here%29

http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/524...r-Haste-Topic!

Both of these are sourced on the Victory March wiki page. Additionally,

https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Marcato

https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Soul_Voice

[Yugl]

Maze Voucher 06 box locations? The last one is almost impossible to find.

[fantasticdan]

How does ruinator stack up against raging rush/upheaval for war?

[Guitarman]

can MNK with Cataclysm or nin with Aoelian Edge cleave very well? What kind of numbers would i be looking at? And what atmas would you recommend for it?

[Churchill]

Potentially Deluges post save TP nerf, not sure on that really.

The dats showed a 3rd amacite, so I'd assume that in addition, but not in replace of.

3rd gets added in same update as savetp nerf, what will be the best then?

Hard to say really seeing as we'll get new atmacites in the same update. Better to hoard cruor until we know.

If SaveTP still caps at 45, are we still looking at using a different Atmacite? This is only ~8-25TP less than what we get back right now, and it's still a shitload more than without.

[Mojo]

It would depend on whether or not you had Miser's Roll, because without Miser's, it's nearly pointless.

[Churchill]

Well that's my point really, if we're still capping at 45SaveTP I don't see much changing in the way of Atmacites or rolls. The third atmacite may be deluges or whatever gets released, but I don't see the current 2 changing.

[shaggnix]

can't speak for mnk

for AE cleave gales helps a lot. on thf i usualy do gales/ultimate/mounted champion, but i only have a rdm for cures. if you had a whm for cures you could easily go with hells guardian (if you have it), kirin, or RandomOtherMAB-Atma for your 3rd instead of MC

[Darkmagi]

Cataclysm is stronger, I would nin if you have to do any red procing though. cosmos smiting blow(unless martial staff, replace with hell's guardian or other MAB atma if so) ultimate for cataclysm, Gales Ultimate Smiting blow(Unless martial knife, replace with hell's guardian or other MAB atma if so) for Aeolian.

[Haborym]

can MNK with Cataclysm or nin with Aoelian Edge cleave very well? What kind of numbers would i be looking at? And what atmas would you recommend for it?

Are you looking to cleave xp, or pops, items, etc.? If xp, then not really. Nothing really compares to the ease/speed of a good WAR — or even a shitty one at that, really. If you are after anything but xp, then both are fine. Personally, I lean towards Cataclysm both on WAR and MNK because you don't have to worry about ruby lights.

For Cataclysm atmas I use Smiting Blow, Ultimate, and Cosmos or Hell's Guardian.

[Darkmagi]

Cosmos is better than a second MAB atma.

[Mojo]

For cleaving -

Fell Cleave is superior EXP wise to any magical WS because it's much easier to not kill all mobs at the same time (there's a cap, perhaps 9 mobs, that you can get EXP from at the same instant.)

Cataclysm works fine for cleaving for boxes if you're trying to get triggers/etc, and can do more damage than Aeolian Edge, but like people have said, ninja is often a superior job to have in the zone for staggering mobs.

Ideal cataclysm set up (for MNK) - Martial Staff, Cosmos, Hell's Guardian, Ultimate, and then other gears which I haven't put much thought into.

[Guitarman]

yeah mainly was looking at just farming boxes. thanks for the tips.

[Mojo]

if you don't invest in a martial staff, then use smiting blow

[Rehn]

Carbuncle's Pole is an option as well since it's exactly the same as martial weapons (TP+100) and only needs some quest legwork to get it.

EDIT: Ok, maybe not as easy to get as just buying the martial staff, but hey, you get to do a pretty cool BCNM.

[Deathbeckons]

http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/993...d-Face-Here%29

http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/524...r-Haste-Topic!

Both of these are sourced on the Victory March wiki page. Additionally,

https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Marcato

https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Soul_Voice

i did find some helpful/relevant information in the first thread, but it devolved into pointless bickering/whining. sadly, nothing in these links answers my questions about instruments beyond +3 (and im also not sure if theyre accounting for the +1 on af3+2 hands.)

[Byrthnoth]

Each +1 from an instrument gives +16/1024 Haste per March, for (assumed) up to +80/1024 Haste with 99 G-horn and AF3+2 hands.

Also, is Shoha's fTP replicated across both hits? I have found a post that indicates it probably is, but don't have any real confirmation.

[Deathbeckons]

ok so looking at 15.6% victory march and 12.5% advancing assuming skills reaching capped tier + lvl 95 gjallar + af3+2 hands. add 1.5% to each after 99 gjallarhorn. thanks for the assistance.

[Yugl]

Has anyone used Cloudsplitter with Soil, Dark, Water, or Thunder Gorget/belt? Mekira Oto on the associated dys?

[Radec]

Sanity Check:

For a WS like Cloudsplitter (Darkness/Fragmentation), would:

A) Stone, Water, Ice, Dark, Wind, Thunder gorgets/belts all work?
B) Mekira-oto/Athos Gloves provide ftp bonus on Stone, Water, Ice, Dark, Wind, Thunder days of the week?
C) Atma of Echoes provide ftp bonus on Stone, Water, Ice, Dark, Wind, Thunder days of the week?

General case, I'm not looking to see what gear I should use for cloudsplitter, just want confirmation on how gorgets/belts, mekira/athos, atma of echoes work.